I am not sure of a source for Orlando seedless, but another bunch grape cv to consider is Conquistador.

This UF pub lists is as a table grape:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg105

This pub by grape breeder Mortenson shows in his taste panel Conquistador did better than OS althought that first pic of OS is awesome:
http://mrec.ifas.ufl.edu/grapes/CultivarBulletins/Orlando%20Seedless%20circularS-3351%201986.pdf

Grapes of Kath shows to have Conquistador available as well as others, but not OS:
http://www.grapesofkath.com/interest.htm

I have four muscadine cv's and and thinking of exchanging one of them to a bunch grape.

Hope this helps

marcus

You didn't say where you are, but here in North Broward I had a similar issue this past spring.

Right now I have four grape vines in the ground since early spring, three muscadine and one muscadine variant called scuppernong and all have been growing like mad. They were but a foot tall in the pot and all have grown three feet in either direction.

The scuppernong has smaller leaves (not good for cooking) and isn't as aggressive a grower as the muscadine but they are both beautiful covering my trellises giving my patio more privacy.

I would like to see what kind of crop I get, heck, even if I get no crop they are GREAT vines!

We'll see.

Gary

I'm not sure when they will fruit

Thanks, I am definitely going to be picking up a Conquistador but I was hoping to have one white and one red.

There is another new type that is just coming out called Victoria Red. That one is supposed to be the best of the varieties that is resistant to Pierce disease but I don't think it is available yet.

*Orlando Seedless' is a new seedless bunch grape cultivar developed from the breeding program at the Agricultural Research and Educa- tion Center in Leesburg. The cultivar is the first seedless grape that is long-lived in Florida.