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- Posted by hmhausman FL 10B (hmhausman@aol.com) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 19:45
| Looks like you are well on your way to an excellent fruit orchard. You have some nice choices in your collection. I am amazed to see mamey blooms on such a small tree. On a related note, Jeff Hagen and his wife stopped by tonight to drop off some more mango trees and Jeff spotted some of what looks like blooms on my 15 year old grafted magana mamey. So...at long last I may get some fruit. Anyway, thanks for posting your yard update. Harry |
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| Very very nice!! The yard is looking good and can only get better. A good way to start would be to remove the soursop for a good fruit tree!! Kidding...well...not really. Keep the pics coming. Would like to see how the blooms on your mamey progress. Thanks, J |
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- Posted by bradflorida none (My Page) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 20:34
| Nice shape on the Sweetsop! Looks like the Mamey is about to take off with buds!! Brad |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 20:34
| Thanks! 5-10 years from now, it will probably look like a rain forest. haha Cool. What other mango cultivars did you get? Glad to hear the good news about your magana mamey. |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 20:40
| Thanks for the positive feedback ohiojay and bradflorida! ohiojay- I'll make a new update in February. The mamey would have even more blooms by then and more new growth. Honestly, I like the sweetsop. It's just like vanilla custard. The only drawback is the amount of seeds. bradflorida- Yes it is. :-) |
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- Posted by hmhausman FL 10B (hmhausman@aol.com) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 20:54
| Alexi: Against my better judgment which became outweighed by my obsession I got Harvest Moon, Ladies Choice and Sweet Tart. Please, don't aks me why. I need more mangoes like I need a couple more holes in my head. LOL....I just can't help myself. I think that now makes my mango collection check in at about 115 trees.....100 different cultivars/seedlings. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Harry |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 21:05
| hahaha I know how you feel. My original plan was having three types of mango. This weekend coming up, I will officially have seven types of mango trees. lol |
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| Harry that is not crazy that is diversity, diversity, diversity as far as mangoes you have your own UDSA test station |
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| Very nice collection, Alexi. All your trees are looking nice and healthy. The older pace mamey is especially nice looking. Harry, you need to start 'culling the herd'. Time to start top working the cultivars of lesser value ;-). Jeff |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Sun, Oct 30, 11 at 23:38
| Thanks Jeff! |
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| TG89--- Your fruit trees look good but........ Your lawn and hedge are struggling and lawn has bare sandy patches. As you drive around, when you see a crew trimming and chipping trees see if you can get them to dump a load in your driveway. Have a wheelbarrow ready for you to bring them to your back yard. Heap them up into three ft high compost piles where you have bare sandy lawn patches. After 6-12 months remove that compost pile and use that black compost where you need it such as in scraggly parts of your lawn, fruit trees, hedges. After removing that wood chip compost pile you will be left with nice black soil underneath to plant grass, sod or perennial peanut. St Augustine grass is purchased as sod, it is a machine that creates and maintains black soil underneath once it it is established but it must be fertilized (chemical lawn fertilizers are OK) or it weakens. But also look into perennial peanut, I am planting some this week to see how it does. Aside from those compost piles, Take some of that wood chip load and put around your fruit trees and into your hedges. Your hedges need humus. They are dry because your soil is dry because little humus. My neighbor's ficus hedge (nasty invasive roots hedge it's actually a tree) recovered when mulched. If you get too much wood chips you can really heap them up into your hedges. Store them in your hedges then remove and use elsewhere as needed. Your hedges can be your wood chip mulch bank that you make withdrawals from If your driveway is not available then spread out a tarp and drop the chips load there onto that tarp. You can wait until spring when as it it gets hotter the chips decay into humus quicker. Plus more tree trimming crews are out. Or do it now and get a head start. Plus sprinkling some 6-6-6 or 10-10-10 on top will accelerate the composting process but don't use too much or the worms etc will be affected Additionally-- You can also take an electric drill and/or a circular saw and scoop out a pint/quart size hole in the center of those tree stumps I see. Put some 6-6-6 or 10-10-10 in there. Add water then seal with plastic so rains don't wash it away. This will eat through the stump and rot it into black humus |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Mon, Oct 31, 11 at 14:15
| Thanks Zands. The stump is from a norfolk pine that used to be there. I am planning to use a circular saw and bust the roots that are near the surface close to the stump. Thanks for the advice. I'll make a hole/bowl in the center of each stump and use the 6-6-6 or 10-10-10 fertilizer like you've mentioned. It was a triplet. The front lawn was also abandoned an the weeds took over the whole yard. They are ground-cover type weeds. It looks pretty nice after I mow the lawn since it looks like a dark-green carpet. I'm probably going to use Scott's turf builder and weed killer. That will probably kill everything and leave the front yard bare so we can lay down some sod. Little by little, the yard will take shape. |
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- Posted by melikeeatplants 9 norcal (My Page) on Mon, Oct 31, 11 at 19:12
| The "weeds" are really pioneer type plants. They can help draw nutrients up and rebuild the health of the soil. They're fine IMO and healthier than spraying herbicides and petroleum based fertilizers like "turf builder" into the ground. I don't know why people like the "mono culture" look of grass with nothing else in it. Nice for baseball fields but not for yards I say. To each his own, nice looking Mango trees! |
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| Keeping the front yard with decent looking sod helps keep the neighbors, city code enforcers, and home owner's associations happy. But you can mulch over the backyard quite happily. The mulch actually has a neat "forest" look to it and has many, many benefits such as increased beneficial insect activity, fewer cuban may beetles, better soil, less water loss, etc. The painful part is laying it down. You need it to be several inches thick - plan on an entire weekend worth of work hauling it to the back for a normal sized backyard. City officials really like to see the green carpet in the front. A few of my rare-fruiter friends have had issues with city code enforcement. One friend in Boynton Beach was told that he needed to have a certain number of square feet of grass in his front yard (~200 sq ft?). So, he planted a patch of sod of the required size and now uses it as a parking space for his truck :-). Jeff |
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| tropicalgrower89-- Thanks for explaining your future plans. Looks like you have some work ahead but that's why you got a good deal on the foreclosure. So more power to ya! Not all hedges have invasive roots. Ficus sure does. The roots will travel to seek out water so they say. My neighbor planted ficus. So far it has not sent out roots to my Glenn mango planted 10ft from the hedge and I do water that mango sometimes. I will waste any intruding ficus roots |
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- Posted by jfernandez 10B (lahabrafernandez@aol.com) on Mon, Oct 31, 11 at 21:11
| beautiful trees Tropicalgrower89, They look to be growing fast you'll have a edible forest in acouple of years.....BTW, I love that flowering Mamey. My Maganha is also flowering out here in Socal. JF |
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| Tropicalgrower, Beautiful trees, everything looks very healthy. |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 (My Page) on Tue, Nov 1, 11 at 20:57
| melikeeatplants: Thanks! Yeah, weeds do create nutrients, especially after you mow them over and leave lots of weed pieces on the ground to decompose and create more soil. Sometimes, I use lawn debris such as pieces of grass and weeds as tree mulch for the fruit trees and they rot into black compost and harbor lots of insects that are good for the soil. Jeff: Thanks for the advice! I'd rather put a thick layer of mulch in a 8ft diameter around each tree because I don't have space in the front yard for a huge pile of mulch. I'm pretty much exposed to all of the neighbors on the block and I don't have a big driveway. I might just plant the perennial peanuts on all over the back yard after most of the weeds are dead after winter, during spring. I also don't live in a HOA neighborhood. :-) Also, it seems that pembroke pines is not that strict on lawn maintenance unless it's really horrible like having a completely dead lawn or weeds that are 4-5ft tall. haha I might just plant the peanut perennials in the front and back yards. It will need water and require less maintenance while not allowing any weeds to grow. There's a neighbor down the block who just has river pebbles in his front yard like if it was the desert with zero grass, so I'm pretty sure the city won't have any problems with me having a peanut perennial lawn. Zands- thanks for your advice! jfernandez- Thanks! Hopefully you'll enjoy fruit from your magana mamey next year. nullzero- Thanks! |
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| Yah a mulch pile will take up the entire driveway. I usually pay a guy to truck it into the back. It seems like it would take him about a day and a half for a full load. Jeff |
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- Posted by tropicalgrower89 10b (My Page) on Tue, Nov 1, 11 at 23:48
| Wow. That's a lot of mulch. I'm thinking about buying pine bark mulch for the fruit trees. |
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