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| I left the last five on the tree..and they sweetened! It was GOOD!-lol..ok,I wasn't filled,but it was fine quality!..shoot,I wish store bought were as good. NOW,I can say to fellow bay areans-Baileys Marvel? I RECOMMEND-lol.
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| Wow, what a difference growing in Cali versus SFla. The BM that I have seen/had in SFla or more rounded than that with more vivid skin color and a little darker flesh. Did they have any tartness to them or just sweet ? The BMs here have a good balance of sweet and tart with a citrusy overtone. Rob |
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| Have to say....that doesn't look like Bailey's Marvel. |
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| Kudo's Stan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mangodawg |
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| Congrats...I'm also in NorCal and have began my quest for mangos. Nice to see more of us doing this...it's a great feeling. |
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- Posted by hmhausman FL 10B (hmhausman@aol.com) on Wed, Nov 9, 11 at 8:35
| Stan: I'm glad they were good, but I have to agree, and I think I have already said in another thread on this subject, that these look nothing like Bailey's Marvel here in Florida. I wonder whether they are self pollinated or whether there may have been another polleen source in the area. What are your thoughts on the pollen source? Any other mangoes in bloom in the area around the same time? Remind us, where did you obtain this tree from? And you are confident that the fruiting portion of the tree is growing from above the graft line? Link to PIN shows what we see here in Florida out of Bailey's Marvel. Harry |
Here is a link that might be useful: Bailey's Marvel
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| I was shocked-I expected dry sour..and it was fine.BSB,I think it did have a tad tart..but it added to the sweet like carbonation does. Its a Baileys..the vertical growth isn't like the Manila's or even like Tammy's Haden and Glenn's-also bay area grown. I think guys,that its a combo of pot grown,and a summer of only 73-80f for highs and lows of 55-60f. Plus-it was labeled Baileys Marvel,when I bought it at a nursery. Next year,Its going in ground..another big worry..but I've had a Manila now do well in ground for two years close by. |
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- Posted by hmhausman FL 10B (hmhausman@aol.com) on Wed, Nov 9, 11 at 13:36
| Ahhhhhh....the nursery label says its a Bailey's.....OK, that settles it. Harry |
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| When its in ground-and looking like a true tree,and the fruits are still this small THEN I will say-not a Baileys. But for now I'm pretty sure it is. Look,the only reason the nursery would choose a B.M. is because we are a heat challenged climate. It's not impossible that it was mislabeled..anything could have happened I give you that. And Harry-just no way another Mango was close. You could count on one hand the people who had a mango flower in the bay area last year! ..or just about. I'm in NorCal where they aren't even supposed to live let alone fruit. |
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| Now that you see the pics..I'm all ears as to what you think it might be. |
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- Posted by hmhausman FL 10B (hmhausman@aol.com) on Wed, Nov 9, 11 at 15:37
| Stan: No need for other trees in the area, the mango can pollinate itself and have a fruit that carries a seed that will be very different than the parent. Now, does that sexual reproduction, even though a selfing, possibly create a different looking fruit from the exterior view (rather than just a genetically new seeed), that's the million dollar question. I highly doubt that being pot grown, humidity variations or temperature variations could account for the difference in the fruit's appearance. That's why I asked if the fruiting portion of the tree is definitely coming from a point that is above the graft on the tree. I have heard that in California, they graft much higher on the rootstock than we do, and it would be quite possible to have the fruiting portion of the tree actually being part of the seedling rootstock. Can you clearly discern the graft line on the tree? The fact that it doesn't look like Glenn, Haden or Manila, doesn't really prove anything. Of course, the main thing is that the fruit was good, you enjoyed it and you were persistant and skilled enough to get it to fruit in your locale, a feat that should be applauded for sure. But, I wouldn't put any money on it being Bailey's Marvel if I were you.....your risk of losing that bet is very high IMHO. Fruit size might be different, exterior color could be very different, but changing the actual shape of the fruit this drastically as well as the flesh color.....that's a horse of an entirely different color. Harry |
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- Posted by jfernandez 10B (lahabrafernandez@aol.com) on Wed, Nov 9, 11 at 18:20
| Way to go Stan! Once you put that baby on the ground you are going to have nice size Baileys. All you need is a little protection from winter like Tammy. JF |
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| Thanks J-I'm thinking the same thing..in ground it should be near Florida like in size as the root system builds. Harry-I wonder if the redder flesh near the stem wouldnt be Baileys like,if the fruit were larger? I know they are much smaller then they should be. But-they sure tasted good! |
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| Thanks Mango dog!- |
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| Its not the size but the actual shape and flesh color that are off that is disturding. They should be more round and have a darker colored flesh. As Harry stated, I don't believe growing them in a pot would cause those types of changes. Rob |
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| The only feature this mango appears to share with BM is the slightly pointed nak/beak. Otherwise, the fruit is too enlongated and the flesh color is too light. Flavor can be influenced by growing conditions but fruit shape really is pretty universal. That's not to say you don't get a mis-shapen fruit here and there....all trees will do this, but there is typically some uniformity to the shape. Not sure if flesh color varies based on where its grown....I know harvest date can impact it some. Do you have any more pictures of the fruits? It could be that this one wasn't completely representative of the rest of the fruit on the tree. |
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| Here's a pic of the BELOW GRAFT fruit. Its growing from the TRUNK. And the graft mark didnt show in the photo-but I've posted it clearly before-If you doubt check the archives. I claim-first ever TWO flavor Mango tree! Full size   |
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