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| dh and i are signing papers on a piece of land tomorrow, about 4 acres -we're going to build a retirement home, shop and of course my garden i've never started on a brand new garden before and i'm not sure what i want to do or what to do first we're going to be 20 miles from the gulf-about 50 miles west of galveston over a hundred years ago the area was a sugar cane plantation, then a cattle ranch, then a rice farm in some areas lots of big trees, lots of huge prairie, our land has 44 live oak trees about 40 to 45 ft apart- about 25 ft tall- we have a market for many of the trees anyway the third lot is the one where the garden will be absolutely flat, no vegetation except some grass haven't checked but it's likely gumbo soil how would you start? i'm thinking of only "cultivating" the back yard area to start with (and a bit around the foundation) what would you like to do first or what did you do that you wish you hadn't- when you started your garden |
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- Posted by robyn_tx 8b SouthTX (rlleland@hotmail.com) on Thu, Feb 7, 13 at 23:14
| Congrats on your new land. What I wouldn't give for a few acres of "tabula rasa" to build my dreamscape from scratch! Don't know if you mean vegetable garden or perennial beds/ gardens ... but what I would do personally is spend the first year planning. Try to get a real feel for how the sun hits your property, how rain drains when it pours (and it will in that area), how you plan to live in your space (outdoor living areas, patios/decks, grandkid play areas, etc.), and install your hardscape (paths, bed borders, pergolas, garden shed, etc.) You can also improve your bed or vege garden plots during this year - amending soil, adding organic matter, building raised beds if you like those. If all you're wanting to do is get a vege plot going before the house is built, you need to get in there now and amend the soil on some space. It'll be too late to plant spring veges pretty soon in Zone 9 - so I'd be getting going pronto! Good luck |
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- Posted by cynthianovak 7/8 TX (My Page) on Fri, Feb 8, 13 at 0:13
| Robyn is giving great advice. I would need to plant something, somewhere to see how things grow and because I was never strong on patience or planning. But, a wise retiree gave me these words after spending a year to plan his new home: Cheering you on! |
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- Posted by lynnmariep86 8 DFW (My Page) on Fri, Feb 8, 13 at 8:30
| When I read the title of your post I said, "I can answer that! I just started a new garden!" But then when I read your post I thought my experience with my new 8'X8' backyard garden can't compare to what you want/can do! We'd all like to see pictures of your land and your garden as you go along though. |
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| Yes, some before and after pics sometimes scratches the itch....or sometimes makes it worse :o) I'll add to the already excellent posts above. First I have a couple questions that I feel are really important, then some that are not so much. All have to do with planning. -Are you doing flower or vegetable garden? Ok, now for some of the not-so-important-but-still-important. -Are you familiar with this area or are you moving from somewhere else. Reason- check average rainfall for area, first and last frost dates, ect. These are just some things off the top of my head to think about. The most important thing to start with in my opinion, is if you are doing raised beds or will plant into existing soil. If existing soil, then get a soil test, and spend the first growing season prepping your soil. If you have to add anything to the soil, it will require tilling it in. The second most important thing to me is to answer how you will get water to your garden. Will you need to run an irrigation line to your garden? Does this require a permit of some sort to do so? What about a rain catching cistern? Not only do you have to think about how to get water to your garden, you have to think about how you will distribute it throughout your garden. PVC drip irrigation grid is about as easy as it can get other than a series of soaker hoses. Anyways, I know that's a lot of info to think about, but if you plan right in the first place, you will enjoy your garden on into the future and will actually have to work less. Hope this helps in some way, |
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| thank you all sooo much here's more information i will not be planting this year but will be planting next year so i have time for planning and working on the beds i'm planning for some veggies okra tomatoes lettuce squash and cukes maybe a couple of melons peppers no peas, corn, or large crops i'd like several citrus (i have 3 now in enormous pots) - gave away over 5 dozen meyer lemons during the holidays-plus all i had space for in the freezer id like some herbs roses and just other interesting plants my biggest problem may be wildlife there are deer everywhere millions of them i'll have to go for a lot |
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| Okokok- There's some really excellent suggestions that have been posted above- checking the soil, thinking about water sources, drainage, etc that I totally agree with. Our house is only on 2 acres and sometimes it's a little overwhelming to try to get an overall vision of what you want to try to do with so much space. I might add a couple of things. One thing about deer is that their feeding patterns are somewhat predictable. In other words if they find a food source they keep coming back because they know they're likely to find it again. One article I read said that if you anticipate deer to be an issue in your garden it's a good idea to set up whatever barriers you plan on using BEFORE they get used to coming to that area for their "salad bar". They'll be more determined if you try to set it up afterwards because they know what's behind the barriers. Another idea I like is planning a garden in phases. A friend worked with a landscape designer and came up with an overall plan. Then he broke it down into manageable phases. What was really neat was that he put the phases onto papers that layered on top of each other so she could see how everything would evolve over time. As she started working on her yard if she had a different idea she just redrew the paper to see how it would fit with everything else. So it was a pretty flexible plan. Good luck with your new property. Lisa |
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| Wow -- some great tips from wisdom gained of experience has been put to words by all the above posters. I'm impressed. |
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| One more thing- a graph paper pad from your local office supply store can help out a lot with planning. Draw to your heart's content! A "to scale" layout of different garden designs is an excellent way to start. Same for a watering layout and plant placement With the raised beds and your "creaky old bones" .... :o) the beds do not necessarily have to be on the ground. You can "table top" them, which is basically putting the beds on legs of some sort (wood, stone, cinderblocks....). I have a surgically repaired back and cannot do as much bending over as I would like to, so this year I will be trying out different styles of raised beds with regards to drainage, planting depth, ect. I'll be looking at traditional wooded beds, table top, as well as cinderblocks. Not to mention the art of vertical gardening (trellises, ect). Anyways, again, pictures pictures pictures!! |
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| We recently retired and decided to start new "keyhole" gardens. 2 of them will feed a family of 4 year round. Go a google on them. We got tired of 18" raised beds. Our backs said to try something else. These beds are 3' high, 6' diameter. Made of landscape bricks. In the center a wire mesh tube to put your waste for making compost. Really cool. Several Master Gardener friends here and Austin have been doing this and works great. Saves the back, water effientcy, fun and cosmetically pretty. Keeps out all sorts of critters. |
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- Posted by walnutcreek AHS Hardiness Zone%3 (My Page) on Mon, Feb 11, 13 at 17:33
| I visited a home garden and thought the owner had a good idea for temporary walkways until solid ones could be put in. She removed all grass from the "walkways" and covered them with shredded paper and watered them. Surprisingly, the paper stayed put. |
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| If there are still rice farms in the area you can have rice hulls trucked in for reasonable cost as part of your organic amendments. If all you have is clay gumbo, you've got to start with your soil and improve it. |
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- Posted by lou_midlothian_tx z8 DFW, Tx (My Page) on Thu, Feb 21, 13 at 7:01
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- Posted by barkingdogwoods 8a-east Texas (My Page) on Thu, Feb 21, 13 at 7:29
| There was a good article on keyhole gardening in an issue of Texas Co-Op Power magazine last year - I included a link to it here. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Keyhole Gardening
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| Lin, I've never heard of keyhole gardening, but would love to have a couple. Thanks for posting article. |
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| My heavens Lou! I hope you didn't have to dig those rocks out of that hole. Whatever, it looks exciting. I can't wait to see and hear more about what you are doing to build a new garden. |
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