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Posted by equinecpa 7 (My Page) on Thu, May 21, 09 at 12:50
| I have two of these plants that I started from seeds this year. They are about 4 inches tall and seem to have stopped growing and are shriveling up. I've tried to keep them moist at all times. Is that a mistake?
What is the proper conditions for these seedlings? I fear one plant is a gonner (very dried) but the other still has some soft new growth on it.
I have them outside in small 4" pots. I have them in what should be a sunny location (except it has rained for 2 weeks straight so very little sun anywhere!).
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Carolyn |
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RE: Pride of Barbados
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| They like sandy soil and moisture on the plant, but not too much on the roots. They may have gotten too wet and would do better if you let them dry out a little bit. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Ahhh thanks. Should I let the soil dry out between watering? And perhaps mist the leaves between watering? |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Are this the ones that the leaves are kind of a fern like? bloom yellow with s red strings coming out of the flower? Mine are very tolerant, I water them sometimes once a week and they are still triving, I have never feed the tree, I have new volunteers come up now and then. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Yes the leaves look like ferns. I believe they are supposed to be the pink variety -just seedlings about 4" high. So you let the soil dry out completely before watering? I find it odd that these grew like gangbusters and now have stalled out - I must be missing something. Do you think I should perhaps fertilize them with something? |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| I have to wonder if the pink ones are more finicky than the orange and yellow variety. I shared some pink POB seeds with two other ladies. One lady has had just as much trouble as I have with them and I haven't heard from the other person. I have one little seedling, germinated last fall. It is just now starting to put on new growth. I've fertilized with mild fish emulsion twice. I had another seedling that got really wet with all the rain and it looked like he might not make it. I gave it to someone else, so I don't know if drying it out worked or not. I feel sure it was too much moisture that did it. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Lets not get the Bird of Paradise and the Bird of Barbados (Mexican Bird of Paradise) confused. They different species. The BoB is very tender and not frost tolerant. The DoP is frost tolerant to about 25. Both have long large tap roots which makes them hard to transplant. You didn't mention the size pot them where in, regardless make sure the tap root has room to grow. I would plant them outside in a protected area in your z7 and hope they survive. They will not survive in a pot regardless of the size. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Definitely get them out of your 4" pot. I like to germinate them in 1 gallon pots, or DEEP 4" pots. They develop a tap root in a hurry. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Tammy gave me several seeds for the pink Pride of Barbardos last fall. Eager to get them going in hopes that they would bloom this summer they were planted in 4 in. pots and they all germinated. They spent most of the winter on the sunny window sill in the kitchen, but on warm days they were faithfully carried outside and then back in when it got cooler in the evenings. Two of them made it through to spring and then up and died! One of them got too dry on a hot day, but the other bigger one had no excuse. I ordered more - from Canada of all places - and waited until warm weather to plant them. PoB's love hot weather. I've noticed the established red and yellow ones wait until late spring to start growing. I now have six plants that are doing well in four inch pots and just planted six more seeds which are starting to peep up from the soil. I haven't fertilized them nor do I fertilize the red ones since I figured most pea like plants set their own nitrogen. When they get a little bigger I'll tranplant to larger pots and then into the ground later in the year. I don't know why yours seem to be declining, but the thought occured that maybe it was because of the cool nights we had for a few days as well as the lack of sunshine you mentioned. I wish you well with your seedlings If you lose them and most of mine make it maybe we can do a trade of some sort. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pink Pride of Barbados
RE: Google
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| If you google Pink Pride of Barbados you will find photos of many members of the family Caesalpinia. Only problem is I want them all! |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| Roselee, Roselee, keep buying the seeds and germinating them and trying to raise them in pots, they will all succumb to the fate of your first ones. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| I guess I may be wasting my time then...If I do plant it in the ground what do I do to overwinter it? I thought I'd do large pots and bring them in...sounds like that might not be an option. They are truly gorgeous -such a shame. The ones I'm trying to grow are the same as in the link rosalee posted. I'll plant it out and hope for the best... |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| I very much appreciate all the advice (I can use all the help I can get) but since Pride of Barbados is a hot weather plant I think it was more the extended cool weather of winter that the first set succumbed to rather than being in a pot. They were tiny little weak looking things with barely two sets of real leaves. They struggled to make it, but even with all my carrying them in and out they needed bottom heat to survive. I just tipped the soil out of the 4 inch pot to look at the root system of the robust seedlings I have now (I was surprised at how warm the soil felt) and saw only one little root had reached the bottom. I'm going to wait until there are a few more roots to hold the soil together before transfering to a larger pot. Equincpa, several of the web sites say they can be grown in a pot. I've grown plants of the same family in a pot. Nurseries sell them in a pot. I've dug up Pride of Barbados to pass around and broken off most of the roots and they have survived. You just have to cut back the tops by half or more when you do that. So I think you can manage to grow them in a large pot and carry the pot with the dormant plant roots into a cool place during the zone 7 winter. Here in San Antonio the red and yellow Pride of Barbados dies to the ground in winter and don't start coming up until the ground is well warmed. You could plant it in the ground now and maybe put a little barrier around it like a cut open gallon milk jug to keep something like cut worms from eating it. Maybe there is someone here from zone 7 who grows the red and yellow Pride of Barbados to tell you how they handle them. Happy zone-stretching Barbados gardening! Let us know how yours does and I will do the same. |
RE: Pride of Barbados
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| I have had the red and yellow in a pot for several years and always bring it inside for winter. I am about to plant it outside in a sheltered location though. This was a 1 gallon plant when I got it and is now in a 15 gallon pot. They do love the sun and heat though. Pam |
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