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Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

Posted by halle25335 9 (My Page) on
Sun, Jun 14, 09 at 18:28

I just moved from Michigan to Texas and will be going back to MI to make my final move of stuff. One item I really want to bring back to TX is a 3' Blue Spruce. This was planted in honor of my parents who recently passed away. I would love to be able to see this tree out my patio windows. However in researching Blue Spruces, it states that they grow best in Zones 3 to 8. Do you think it cannot tolerate the heat here in Zone 9, Spring, TX? We are near Houston. Or do you think I should just leave it in Michigan. I don't want to kill it......
Thank you all....
Halle'


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

  • Posted by allen 8-b Texas (My Page) on
    Sun, Jun 14, 09 at 20:44

sorry it cant take the heat, I moved from Ohio and tried it and lost it Allen


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

When they say zone 8, they mean the pacific northwest. We can't grow them in DFW either. Sorry.


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

Plant it in a place your parents loved, Maybe a park or a school will have it and care for it.......Or any relative in the neighborhood. Texas is not the place for it.


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I have seen them in our zone BUT just a few. I just came from Ruidoso NM and was at nursery there. She said that she had a customer from Houston who purchased one from her and kept it in his garage or some cool area for a year before he planted it. She said he told her it was doing great. He told her that he gradually moved it to a warmer area. I'd love one, too. I think they are the prettiest trees ever....

Coque near Waco....


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Clay, alkaline soil and the heat stack the deck against you. If Spring's soil is more acidic, and drains better, maybe you stand a chance, but I don't know of anyone south of Amarillo having real success. I tried here north of DFW and will soon pull the 2nd (and last attempt) at a blue spruce. I tried several other spruce species from around the world, too - no luck. Maybe that's why God put them where he did,huh?


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

You can plant it and it can die. If it grows in Michigan it's gonna hate Texas.

We have a plant trade at Mercer arboreteum this fall, look on the exchange page for the date. Come and join us. You'll have a blast. Don't worry if you don't have anything to trade, several of us always bring extras and we'll be glad to have you.
Tally HO!


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There was a huge one growing nicely in our neighborhood until the house was sold and the new owners didn't water it. It started turning brown and they tried to limb it up like a regular tree and it died. I could have cried since I admired it every day on my way back and forth to work. Had I known at the time the house was sold I would have stopped and told them it needed much more water than other trees here. It can be done but the people that had it before took really great care of it since it was a mature tree when I moved here and it lived at least 5 years after that until it was butchered. Saw the same happen to a beautiful pine tree. People just don't realize some trees here have to have really deep watering and don't ever adjust to our lack of rainfall like the native trees do.


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Ok, we all know that as soon as someone says "it won't live here" someone else will tell you they've had one for 25 years. I have two properties, one in east Dallas and one in NE Texas 11 miles south of the Red River (Oklahoma). I planted two 4 ft. tall Baby Blue Eyes Colorado Blue Spruces in my back yard in Dallas in 2004. One is now 10 feet tall and the other is 9 feet. They are on the south side of a large old pecan tree so they get afternoon shade and I keep them well mulched. In 2005 I planted two Fat Alberts which I purchased at a local nursery brave enough to order them in. They were each about 3 1/2 feet tall in 5 gallon containers. Both are healthy and about five feet tall. In NE Texas I have planted Hoopsi, Fat Albert, Weeping White, White and aerospicata. They have been in the ground two years and would be doing great if it weren't for the east Texas Pine belt version of the Southern Pine Beetle attacking them. I have been treating them with Merit in hopes of protecting them this season. I have seen several Blue Spruce trees in the Dallas area north of I-30 and east of I-35. Usually where experienced people are willing to "take care" of them, they will not only live but will satisfy that longing we conifer lovers all crave to have satisfied. They need to be in well drained areas with some afternoon shade and heavily mulched. I have sprinkled granulated sulfer over the area every 2-3 years. Most conifer enthusiasts with "Spruce experience" in Dallas will tell you that it's possible to get 25 years out of a tree that is well cared for by its owner. I also have some nice Chameacyparis, Deodara and Blue Atlas Cedars. Of course, ANY Juniper will thrive here. I have a Gold Cone and lots of Mother Load that shine YELLOW. Italian Cypress, standard and Swanes Gold, are a nice contrast with blue pfitzer junipers. I have lots of folks asking me about those too... Dallas has several microcosms that allow us to plant a wide variety of conifers. So, yes, Spruce will live if you are patient and willing and do the research needed to plant it in the right spot. If not, then, no. You will kill it if you plant it and depend on nature to do the rest they way most Texans do with Live Oaks, Bradford Pears and Crepe Myrtles. I think I enjoy my conifers the most when we get snow three or four times a year and they really make us look like a winter wonderland! Good luck!


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I'm too lazy to mess with pine/spruce in TX. I think the prettiest conifer is bald cypress. Weeping bald cypress are smaller but oh my they are gorgeous.


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Deodar Cedar is a very good pick for Texas.. Gorgeous tree. also Montezuma cypress is good for a drier situation than the bald cypress.

Here is a link that might be useful: Deodar Cedar


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Since I posted the comment on 3-18-11 about my luck with Colorado Blue Spruce trees in Dallas, Texas, I have had at least a half dozen emails from folks who want to grow Spruce in Texas. I have had good luck. Please don't believe it can't be done, even though most who say they've tried have failed. Please email me with any questions or comments and I will be happy to share my experiences with you. Good luck! (attached is a pic of a Baby Blue Eyes I planted in 2004-was 4.5 feet tall now 10 feet tall) Don
Baby Blue Eyes Blue Spurce, Moterh Load Juniper, Italian Cypress and Blue Pfitzer Juniper


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I have a blue spruce I planted back in 1998, about 2 feet tall at the time. It is now 5 feet tall, has a perfect christmas tree shape. Planted on the north side of an outbulding, is an understory tree now that the chinkapin oak has outgrown it. Doesn't get much water. Cardinals nest in it every year. I will try to post a picture when I get time.


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  • Posted by babesy Zone 7 North Texas (My Page) on
    Sun, Aug 21, 11 at 15:14

TO: Anyone who wants to adopt a failing Blue Spruce

I don't know what kind, it was left here on the deck when we moved in. Owner had quite the green thumb, but I think the heat here in Greenville is the culprit.

It is beginning to get tinges of brown on each tiny section of branch. I'd estimate this tree at less than 10 years, maybe 5 or so. It's good sized in a huge pot.

Has always had water, but not too much.

I hate to see it die, if anyone wants a crack at it, you're more than welcome.

Thanks,
Babesy


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

There was one growing in Z8 Killeen by a church. Used to drive by to look at it once in a while. It grew very little but had good shape and color. It died this past summer during the drought and record heat. It sounds as if those who have had luck with Blue Spruce down here either gave it afternoon shade or planted it on the north side of a bldg. and gave it extra water. By creating a sort of micro-climate for the tree it was able to survive and grow. Sort of like trees growing on the north side of a mountain.
Arizona Cypress is a blue tree that will do well in the drier parts of Texas for those interested.


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RE: Can I plant a Blue Spruce in Zone 9?

Greybird could you post the pic of your spruce? I would love to see it. I am trying a few spruces out myself right now. I learned a lot from Don.


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