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Posted by srburk z9TX (My Page) on Mon, Oct 12, 09 at 16:56
| And no, they aren't dead...I left them alone.
I'm having foundation work today. As you know, it's rained lots in the Houston area for the last week or so. This morning, found a baby snake, very slow moving...is either dying or just too cold. Yellow belly, diamond shaped black head...dull red tinge to the scales with pairs of round to oval spots down the back. I think maybe some kind of water snake? No bands, so I am not thinking cottonmouth.
One of the men in the holes hollered and jumped out a little bit ago....another snake...apparently living in a burrow under the foundation (we do have lot of toads, salamanders, and other reptiles/amphibians even with the drought...we water with a drip hose). This one is also yellow bellied....has a very dull pattern, but appears to be virtually black...again, diamond shaped head. Very aggressive (of course, if somebody nearly shoveled you in half, you'd be unhappy, too) and hissing. I'm thinking also a water snake.
I guess my question is...would these be common...we really don't live near a body of water, we don't have a pond. We do get standing water when it rains (who doesn't in Houston) and live several blocks from huge drainage ditches.....and have gotten the random turtle in the yard...
Will link a photobucket when dear hubby uploads the camera. It's been a weird, weird day. |
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| Are the pupils of the eyes round or elliptical? Kt |
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| I wasn't about to pick either one up, and dear hubby had the camera, so I'm not sure. Could only see the top side for the most part. They have all day today to crawl away. If not, may look into seeing if someone would be willing to locate them away from kids...not that snakes are bad, just that I have a son that would try to pick it up....... |
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| aggressive black snake. May be a whip snake. They will chase you. Mean things. non-poisonous. I think they have a white stripe down the body when grown. Look online and see if it matches your snake. Rat snakes could fit your profile too. Very common and not poisonous. |
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I'm always so jealous of ya'll and your snakes. I've never seen a one in my yard. And, yes, I want snakes! They eat RATS! Anything that eats rats is fine with me. Tally HO! |
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| "It won't hurt ya... but it'll make ya hurt yurself." - one of my favorite saying I learned shortly after moving to TX. |
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| I'm not an expert, but seems I've read somewhere that non-poisonous snakes have narrow heads while the poisonous ones have diamond shaped heads - jaws extended out. As to wanting snakes in the yard - if you have outside cats you will not have snakes visit your yard. I personally love snakes (those with the narrow heads). |
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| A more accurate and quick way to determine venomous from non-venomous snakes is the shape of their pupils. Generally, in the USA, all snakes with elliptic(cat's eye) pupils, are venomous where round pupils indicate non-venomous. This holds true except for two snakes, the coral snake and one other that I can't recall now. Triangular shaped heads is also a determinant, but sometimes it is hard to tell narrow from triangular especially since they can flatten their heads out at will, particularly before striking. Also look for a pit on the side of their heads, as most venomous snakes are pit vipers. As for having cats and no snakes...well, I have four outdoor cats and I stepped on a snake last week just a few steps from my back porch...so much for that saying...:) Kt |
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| That's odd, as I have lived at my house for over 30 years. Never saw but two snakes that whole time. But when I wised-up and stopped putting the cats outside (long story short - lost my best cat to a coyote) we started seeing a lot more snakes. The last one was about 6 feet long, a rat snake, climbing up a hackberry tree (wouldn't have believed that if I hadn't seen it). One of the "good" snakes. |
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| Suzzque, I think you are correct to some degree. Apparently, cats that mark their territory, such as male cats that spray things around the yard, leave a strong scent that snakes tend to stay away from since it is a sign of a predator, and snakes generally stay away from anything that might be a threat, that is, unless their need for food is overwhelming, in which case they may enter the area because of hunger. Kt |
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| Well, we get cats dropped off all of the time and there are still many, many snakes |
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| I've offered you roadrunners, Jolana .......... no snakes with these guys .... of course, no frogs, no lizards and other desirables. |
Re: roadrunners
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| HAHAHA, that's too big of a trade off. Besides, I am seeing more and more roadrunners around here. A couple of weeks ago, I saw one on the road you turn off of to come here |
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| If you get too many, they can be chased with either a broom or your riding mower ..... which ever is the handiest. LOL> |
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| I have roadrunners...and 'still' have snakes, frogs, lizards, etc. Maybe since the roadrunners don't come in my yard, the snakes take their chances with the cats...the lesser of two evils?! |
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| KT, mine are much "friendlier" than that, they INSIST on coming in the yard ...... that is where all the goodies are. |
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| Mine run when they see anyone. They are quite elusive. Do yours go "Beep-beep"? |
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| I have snakes and roadrunners, so I think they keep each other in check. I used to either kill or run every snake out of my yard. I was so afraid of them. Now I don't. They still scare me if I don't know that they are there, but if I know it, I'm not afraid. This summer a Gulf Ribbon about 3' was in my yard, so I chased it around the yard with a hose (it was hot and dry) until it went down a snake hole. I was so proud that I didn't kill it. The reason for this is because last winter rats got into my greenhouse/pump house and destroyed about 20 of my best orchids. I was so mad. I got rid of the rats and decided snakes aren't so bad after all, . . . providing they are non-poisonous! |
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| No, mine don't say "beep=beep", wish they did, then I would know when to stand guard over my frogs and lizards...LOL> |
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