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Hardy Palms in Virginia

the_virginian
15 years ago

I am in Loudoun County and growing hardy palms like the Sabal Minor or Dwarf Palmetto, the Needle Palm and the Windmill Palm. Anyone else having luck with hardy palms?

Comments (19)

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    I've been growing about 15 species and varieties of hardy palms here in Newport News, which is probably a bit warmer than your location, for over 10 years now. They all do well, but the Trachycarpus species have been the most rewarding, since they tend to grow faster than the others. Needles and Sabal minor are healthy, but very slow to put on any growth. Trachy. takil, wagnerianus, latisectus, and nanus all seem perfectly hardy here, and I have small plants of three other species (princeps, mauritianus, and oreophilus, I think - don't quote me on the spelling!) for which I'm providing some winter protection until they attain a bit more size.

    Sabals of several species are growing well, too, but will take years before adding much to the landscape. Chaemerops humilis in the normal and "blue" variety show some leaf dieback when temps drop into the teens, but always return when the weather warms. Butia capitata has done well for several years, but we haven't been below 10 degrees since they've been planted, so the jury is still out. I'm trying Phoenix theophrasti, Trithrinax campestris, Brahea armata, and a couple of Chaemedora species this winter, so we'll see how they do. The trick seems to be to protect the young plants for several years (I use 'walls-o-water' stuffed with pinestraw) to allow them time to build up a thick enough trunk to protect the growing point.

    A great book on the subject, written by a horticulturist in Ohio, I think, is "Palms Won't Grow Here". He gives great ideas for winter protection and a complete breakdown of possible varieties for zone 6, believe it or not!

    I put one picture of some "teen-aged" Trachycarpus in my last blog entry if you're interested:

    Here is a link that might be useful: The Transitional Gardener (blog)

  • divahethr
    15 years ago

    I have a mexican fan palm I grew from seed in 2004. it's been in the ground since 2005. The trunk is about 3 feet. The base of the trunk is impressive. So far the winters haven't been too bad here in Newport News. One day I will have to protect it when a bad one comes through. By then maybe we will be zone 8? These are some other palms I am growing butia yatay, butia eriospatha, Trachycarpus wagnerianus, trachycarpus takil, mazari silver and green, brazoria sabal, louisianna sabal, blue dwarf palmetto, and no id (no idea either)sabal palm.

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    It's interesting to hear from another gardener growing such a variety of palms in Newport News; wish I had room to try as many as you have. BTW, on the newest USDA zone maps, my area of NN (Harpersville Rd. area) is now classified as zone 8, rather than 7b. I still remember some very cold snaps though, including a couple of winters when all the camellias in the area died back to the ground, so I'm not taking anything for granted. There was a high of 5 degrees F on the day we bought this house in 1994!

  • acstraley
    15 years ago

    Hey there, I live in Hampton, off of Hampton Roads center pkwy. I have a windmill, b. capita, canary island date palm, sabal minor, needle palm. They are all in pots in my sunroom but I am planning to plant them all this spring except the canary island date palm. Nice to hear I have people growing palms so close. Would like to stop by someday and check your yards out and see what you got growing.

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    Hi AC-

    Not far from you at all - I'm off Harpersville Rd. Let's get in touch in a couple of months when things start to warm up a bit and I'm past the holiday rush at both of my jobs. Would be glad to show you around the "jungle" at some point.

  • Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
    15 years ago

    Bubba,

    The photos in your blog are gorgeous. My inlaws live in Williamsburg and we get down there a lot. We often take trips to Anderson's Nursery and to McDonald's on Pembroke. We purchase a lot of plants there that we can't find very easily up here (Northern VA).

  • bubba62
    15 years ago

    Thanks, Dave - the blog has been a fun project this year, but time has gotten away from me lately, so I haven't done much with it. I spend a lot of time at Anderson's and McDonald's as well, but there's not much more room here for plants anymore. I really enjoy going to Green Springs in Alexandria when I'm up your way - I've gotten some cool things very inexpensively in their plant sale area.

  • palmaholic
    15 years ago

    Hello Iam from Central Virginia (Charlottesville area)and growing 3 Pindos, 2 Windmills and a Queen Palm (alot of winter protection). This year Iam going to plant a Sabal "Birmingham", Sabal "Louisiana", Sabal "Brazoria" and several Sabal "McCurtian". All have been in the ground for three years except the Queen, its been in the ground for 2 years.

  • boogshead
    14 years ago

    have you heard of Rhapidophyllum hystrix (needle palm)? is hardy to -10 F (when established) -- but there's a huge one growing in the national arboretum here in Washington, D.C. (zone 7).

  • the_virginian
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Yes, there are some growing in DC, MD and all over the eastern half of Virginia. I wish palms were more popular here and more folks grew them in public places. For those of you who have palms, how did they do this winter with the snow? How have they done in the dry summer we have had so far?

  • the_virginian
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    boogshead: To answer your question, the two that have been in the ground for about 40 years at the National Arboretum have seen many sub-zero events and survived no problem.

  • cece_virginia
    13 years ago

    Search for Bocajoe or Joe Seamone for a wealth of information about growing tropicals in non-tropical locales.

    Here's a little web article I did on the subject. If the link doesn't come through you can go to www.mainlinegardening.com and find it under the "learn" section with the title "A Tropical Garden Anywhere"


    http://www.mainlinegardening.com/previews/index.php?itemid=370

  • the_virginian
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Boca Joe is one of the founding members of the Virginia Palm Society and we have a Facebook group that anyone is free to join whether or not you are from Virginia or not. It is an informal group where we share knowledge and have lots of fun.

  • skipalmbum
    10 years ago

    I live on the east side of Dulles and I have a have a 6 foot windmill in the ground for 10 years and another 7 foot windmill in the ground for 6 years. The younger tree gets an hour more sun than the older tree every day. This year I planted two more smaller windmills and have them bordered by banana trees. Looks amazing from the pool deck.

  • skipalmbum
    10 years ago

    I live on the east side of Dulles and I have a have a 6 foot windmill in the ground for 10 years and another 7 foot windmill in the ground for 6 years. The younger tree gets an hour more sun than the older tree every day. This year I planted two more smaller windmills and have them bordered by banana trees. Looks amazing from the pool deck.

  • river_city
    10 years ago

    I'm growing a pindo palm (jelly date palm) successfully in Richmond.

  • the_virginian
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Awesome that you all have had success and I invite you to feel free to join our group on Facebook. We have local events, get palms planted in public places, plant swaps and garden tours. We welcome anyone from anywhere to join.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Virginia Palm Society on Facebook

  • gastone21 (z7a VA)
    10 years ago

    Both of my trachys have spear pull after this wonderfully cold winter we've had. The older one has been in the ground for 3+ years and the younger for 2+.

  • HU-672945258
    last year

    @the_virginian I wasnt able to find the Virginia Palm Society facebook group. Does it still exist?

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