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eric62687
15 years ago

Is the color ink on newspaper bad for worms? I know not to use the glossy adds but I'm not about to cut out all of the color pictures. Anyone had a bad experience with color newspaper print?

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  • dawncols
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You have brought up a much-debated topic here. If you do a search here you will find hundreds of discussions, some of them rather heated. You'll have to make your own decision what you think.

    In my curiosity, I did some research on the subject. Before I launch into what I have learned, I'll tell you my conclusion: As far as I can tell, the jury is still out on this one. It might be safe and it might not. I'll probably keep using the newspaper, but just in case, I'll probably avoid the pages that have lots of color on them.

    Here's what I found out: Newspaper inks can be petroleum-based or vegetable oil-based. Petroleum-based inks were the dominant newspaper inks for a while (60s-80s), and they were found to be hazardous to the print workers. They also cause air pollution because of their high content of VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds).

    In the 90s newspapers started moving towards vegetable-oil inks, and at this point the predominant inks are soy-based. This was a happy development for soybean growers, and soybean advocacy groups have done some serious work promoting this as environmentally friendly and encouraging newspapers to use a special seal to certify they are using mostly soy ink. The soy ink is low in VOCs and the recycling process is less toxic than the petroleum version.

    We have pretty much established that the soybean oil itself is pretty safe. It's edible (as long as you're not allergic to soy). The problem for us is that other stuff is added to it to make the color ink, some of which can contain heavy metals. I found it very difficult to get much information on the "other stuff" in the ink. I ran across only two sources on the safety of that stuff: There was a study on PubMed on the impact of color ink on aquatic life, which suggests there may be hazards that we need to study more. I also found a National Institute of Health publication suggesting that increased use of color ink has increased allergic responses to something present in yellow dye.

    If someone else has found more information about what is added to the soybean oil, I would be interested in seeing what you found.

    If you are interested, here are a couple sources I found:

    University of Massachusetts Toxics Use Reduction Institute on ink alternatives
    http://www.p2pays.org/ref/11/10142.htm

    Australian article about color soy ink
    http://www.environment.news.com.au/html/inks.htm

    Best wishes in your vermicomposting adventures!

    Dawn

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cornell's FAQ on composting newspaper

  • eric62687
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Do you use newspaper with color ink in your bin?

  • mndtrp
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, I do. I've got more worms than I know what to do with.

  • mbetts
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I too use colored newspaper with no problems. I even use the funnies.
    mbetts

  • jonas302
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It will break down just like everything else no problems

  • robinhood005
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No. There is no effects on the worms because the newpapers are made of simple papers. but still some inks are made of dangerous chemical that harms the worms. We use the health marking inks for printing fo you wnat to use...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Health Marking inks

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    equinoxequinox
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    equinoxequinox
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    equinoxequinox
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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