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Which vine has these seed pods?

Posted by PPennypacker z6b (My Page) on
Mon, Sep 12, 05 at 8:23


This is growing next to some light blue morning glory. They most certainly are not seeds from any morning glory I know of. Might someone help ID this mystery to me?
My thanks.
Best,
PP


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RE: Which vine has these seed pods?

bindweed....

Destroy it immediately.

~Chills


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Chills -
I'm ashamed of myself for not recognizing it sooner! Good Lord! I was so into the "Morning Glory - Viney - lovely looking- lush, thang", that I forgot my own invasive sniffer!
Thanks so much. It will be destroyed.
Best,
PP


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RE: Which vine has these seed pods?

It also looks like silver lace vine, if you got really close up in your picture...
They are tiny...about the size of...
Well, two would fit on the end of a pencil eraser...
Do you remember what the flower looked like?


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Taylor TX -
The funny thing was that no flowers at all were noticed, just the pods. The leaves do resemble the Genus Convolvulous, but on second thought (thanks to the warning of a Gardenweb formum friend) it's leaves do not look like bindweed - they are too spade-shaped, bindweed leaves seem longer and more rectangular (if I can say it that way).
Still a mystery. Please keep trying. I Thank you.
Best,
PP


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Don't know what it is but those are some ugly flowers it's got!


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If it's seeds are very small and have a tissue-papery covering, it's silver lace vine aka fleece vine aka Polygonum aubertii, unless I miss my best guess.


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Most likely family > Polygonaceae( Smartweed or Buckwheat Family)

copy and paste URL's into browser...

Polygonum scandens L > climbing false buckwheat

http://biology.missouristate.edu/Herbarium/Plants of the Interior Highlands/Flowers/Polygonum scandens - N2.JPG
http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/Searchcategory.asp?category=Vine&LIM=0&sortop=Taxa
http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/scripts/detail.asp?SpCode=POLSCA1
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/a/hdw24090210s.jpg
http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/a/hdw24090207s.jpg
http://www.missouriplants.com/Whitealt/Polygonum_scandens_page.html
http://www.delawarewildflowers.org/1546.html
http://2bnthewild.com/plants/H378.htm
http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/cwe/illinois_plants/ThePlants/FGenera/FalSca/FalSca.html
http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/okwild/cfbuck.html

or possibly

Polygonum convolvulus L. > black-bindweed, false buckwheat

http://www.kulak.ac.be/facult/wet/biologie/pb/kulakbiocampus/lage planten/Fallopia convulvulus - Zwaluwtong/zwaluwtong.htm
http://www.missouriplants.com/Greenalt/Polygonum_convolvulus_page.html
http://www.robsplants.com/plants/PolygConvo.php
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/nursery-weeds/weedspeciespage/wild_buckwheat/Polygonum_convolvulus_wild_buckwheat.html
http://www.syngenta.ca/en/guides/weed/index.asp?Nav=buckwheat_wild
http://www.biosurvey.ou.edu/okwild/blackbind.html
http://www.toyen.uio.no/botanisk/nbf/plantefoto/fallopia_convolvulus_Jan_Wesenberg01.jpg
http://www.british-wild-flowers.co.uk/B-Flowers/Bindweed, Black.htm

similar seedpods on the closely related

Rumex crispus

http://kareth.com/systematik/html/rumecri1.html

Here is a link that might be useful: Missouri State University


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RON - Thanks so much for the intensive info. Well done. Though I as you think it is probably Polygonum, I'm curious about the difference between the "non-ruffled edges of the seed pods of the P. above, and those that you found.
Might there be a species differentiation here,as well?
Best,
PP


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PPennypacker - most likely a local variant or the stage of the ripening seeds can also be a factor...the leaves on the plant you posted above look like the P.convolvulus/scandens(upper right in photo) and the rest of the leaves look like the P.aubertii...you'll just have to decide what to do...to pull it or save some seeds...
Here is a link to a pictures of the seedcases of the Polygonum aubertii

http://www.diplomlandespfleger.de/Bilder/Baum/polygonumaubertiibild2.jpg

Here is a link that might be useful: Polygonum aubertii seedcases


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RON - Oh we pulled it allright! We chopped it up into little pieces and put it out for the trashman to take away.
Again, thanks so much for your help. And to think a woman I apprenticed with wanted this "lovely vine" growing all over her property...through the trees...arrgggghh!
Best,
PP


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