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Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 5, 11 at 13:01

I recently ordered 4 violets from Goodwin Creek Nursey in Oregon. I planted Rosina and Royal Robe by my front Porch. I took Reid's Crimson Carpet, and Mrs. David Lloyd George to my church's Memorial Garden and planted them there. I also ordered an Asarum splendens, a Chinese ginger, that I put between the violets by my front porch. I was very happy with the plants. I plan to order more sweet violets in the spring from Wellsweep Herb Farm in New Jersey. Has anyone else ever ordered from them? I want to get Queen Charlotte and the Double White sweet violet that they sell along with a few others. I have read about a hardy, double, sweet violet named Le Gresley that was discovered in Canada. Does anyone know of a U.S. or Canadian mail order source for it? I miss the days when Canyon Creek Nursery still shipped.


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I just ordered from Goodwin Creek... and am looking at some violets from Well Sweep. How was your experience?


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Sun, Sep 30, 12 at 9:46

The violets from Goodwin Creek have grown and I am anxious to see how they perform this fall and winter. Last winter was very mild here. I never got around to ordering from Well Sweep but I will probably do it before they stop shipping for this year at the end of next month. I just ordered seeds of six different scented violets from Groves Nurseries in England. I ordered the seeds of the varieties Kim, Candy, Isabella, Ada Segre, Dick o'the Hills, and Princess of Prussia. I can't wait to see how they germinate. Which varieties did you order from Goodwin Creek Julianna?


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I was considering ordering seeds from Groves or another English source as well, but then decided to wait. I ordered from Georgia Vines and Summer Hill seeds(V. koreana sylettas, v. sororia rubra Emperor magenta, Freckles, and Fuji Dawn). Summer Hill also gave me a free packet-- v. Frosted Chocolate.

From Goodwin I ordered Lianne, Mrs. David Lloyd George, and the Labrador violet.

From Well Sweep, I was eying Alice Witter, Laney Bell, and pensylvanica. I was really also hoping for a few other things from there as well, non-violets :) I am also looking at getting Comte De Brazze and Countess de Parme from Select seeds when ordering opens up there in January.


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PS Dick o'the hills looks so cute!


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Sun, Sep 30, 12 at 13:15

I wanted Lianne badly because I read somewhere that it would bloom from September to April during mild spells of weather. Unfortunately they were sold out of it when I ordered. I have grown V. koreana sylettas from seed before and it produced tiny little plants with beautiful veined leaves. However, I never got one single bloom from it. I hope you have better luck. Keep us posted.


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That is exactly why I ordered Lianne! I'll let you know how they do. I have a balcony garden and am underplanting with violets. It's recessed and north-facing, so there is basically very little to no sun-- but it is very bright shade. Also, it gets quite hot here in the summer so I think the plants appreciate it more. I started out with just purple sororia and priceana from my grandmother's and parents' houses. They have just exploded in size and vigor, so I am hoping this is a good sign for the others. I was thinking to do my bulb planting and mucking around in the next couple months and then lay the seed down in/by November when we may be getting the first frost. That way the seeds could go through the winter and then germinate in the spring? It looked like several wanted a cold period for germination and that seemed the easiest way to do it as far as I could tell. Any thoughts?

I am really excited about ordering Laney Bell. The yellow violets and the doubles are my favorites. I am terminally sad that I missed Flamecheck. I can't find it being sold anywhere. I will let you know how things do! Keep us updated on your germination and progress as well?


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Sun, Sep 30, 12 at 20:21

I watched a youtube video today of Clive Groves demonstrating how to sow violet seed. He said that the seeds should be sown within a month of harvesting if possible. So I am going to try to sow my seeds as soon as possible after I receive them. I plan to put the seed tray on my back deck, which is covered, up next to the building. I am going to do this because you are right about the seeds needing a cold period. I am thinking about ordering Laney Bell also, because of the unusual coloring. I will also be checking the local nurseries to see if I can find any Endurio series viola plants. If not, then I will probably settle for some Sorbets as usual.


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That sounds like a good plan. I really wanted the antique shades pansies to put in my boxes for this fall/winter/spring, but it seems only Burpee has them. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) they are the only things I want from Burpee, which makes them less attractive to order for me when I could dump that $$ into something where it goes further (like Well Sweep). By the way, I meant to say that Lianne had a small flower when she arrived. It had no scent though, which makes me wonder a bit. I've never had odoratas, but I was hoping for good things.


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 1, 12 at 19:05

According to English author Roy Coombs the variety Lianne should be "strongly scented" Maybe the flowers lose some of their fragrance as they age. I hope that this is the case with your Lianne, instead of an accidental misidentification or substitution. I will be curious to hear whether or not the scent improves with subsequent flowering for you. Please let us know.


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I will. I doubt i will see anything else this season. I looked at Groves and it seems they are mostly sold out of seeds. Sad! lol. I'm probably better off with plants anyway as I may only have 2 more years at my current location. I'll attempt to carry my violets with me, but since our next move will most likely be international, it may be a matter of carrying seeds to try to start things anew.


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 8, 12 at 18:54

Groves Nursey just added a few more violets available from seed that I really want including the early blooming pink variety Josephine, the beautiful late blooming pink one Perle Rose, and the lovely mid-blue Carol Lockton.


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Ohhh those are all lovely! I just ordered a few v. odorata seeds from ebay-- Queen Charlotte, Reine de Niege, and Sulphurea. The seller combined the shipping, so it wasn't a bad deal. Just lifted my gloriosa lilies from 2 pots and plan on possibly moving a few things around this weekend-- so I will be able to plant a few violets and spread some seed. I'm not sure what I want to pair with V. labradorica... an odorata or a sororia?


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Hi! Quick update-- I sowed some violet seeds of varying types about 2 weeks ago... and some Sylettas have appeared. I have a couple of other small seedlings which are probably violets in other pots, but I am not as sure since they aren't variegated and showing obvious signs of being what I intended. I thought I would give the quick update. It seems the cold/warm cycles are working at least for Syletta...


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  • Posted by mlb86 6B NE TN (My Page) on
    Sun, Oct 28, 12 at 16:08

Glad to hear about your germination success. I did order Josephine and Perle Rose from Groves but Carol Lockton was already out of stock.


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I admire all the efforts here to grow violets from seed. I have had varied success but will keep trying. About scent in violets. Sometimes even famous 'scented' violets like 'Princess of Wales' have been disappointing for me and then- surprise- they are scented! If you pick them on a warm day, or bring them inside they seem to release their scent. Also, there is a chemical in them which dulls your sense of smell so just as you enjoy their lovely perfume, it disappears!


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Oh rats. Out of stock stuff is always frustrating.

Helena-- that is interesting about the scent! I wonder if that is why perfumes distilled from violets "lose their scent" so quickly?


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