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Toads and now flowers look sick
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Posted by alanis Z4 IA (My Page) on Thu, Jun 7, 07 at 23:18
| Anyone know can toads hurt flowers? I just noticed a perennial that was perfectly fine and healthy, has now got brown leaves. We've had plenty of rain so it's not from lack of moisture.
I saw one and then noticed a hole with one burying in the mulch.
Thanks for any help.
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RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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| I don't think the toads are hurting your flowers. Its probably some sort of tiny insect. Lots of my flowers aren't doing so well this year. They seem to have lots of leaf problems. If anything, the toads are probably trying to keep down the insect population. |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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| Catherine is right. Toads are really a gardners friend as they eat the bugs. |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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Well guess what...I initially would have been right up there with the other two posts, but I was helping my mom plant flowers yesterday and she mentioned this very thing. I'd never thought of it, and it is a possibility, although easily remedied.
Last year she had some geraniums in a pot on the back deck next to the pool and noticed that they were looking horrible. She checked them out and realized they were loose in the pot and when she started poking around in the dirt to tamp them down, three toads made a dash for it. When she told me this, I realized that they had simply been doing what toads do, which is search out mulch or loose dirt, someplace cool to hide out during the day's heat. They start with their rump and legs, scooting and shuffling further into their chosen site until they have made a hollowed-out spot just right for their body. Sometimes they will be completely covered with only an eye or two visible, like a little flounder or something. The potting soil in mom's geranium planter was always slightly damp and somewhat fluffy...perfect for a toad to root around in and wait for night to arrive. They do it in my mulched areas all the time but there's nothing here with new or fragile roots that might get damaged.
That's the only way I can possibly think of where having toads might be a setback. Before putting the blame of them, though, look carefully in the soil around your plants to see if there are any hiding there, or look for their vacant hollowed out areas with fairly smooth interiors. . They might be any size, depending on the "tenant". Toads seem to know their way home and will return to a site again and again if they find it to their liking. If you do find them there, gently remove them and fill in the cavity they made, and then try to exclude them from returning. Despite anything they may have done to the roots of your plant, they truly are your best friend in the garden. Is there a similar place in your garden with shade and loose dirt/mulch or things to hide under where they would be more welcome? |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick***
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| should have read your post more thoroughly...sounds like you already know about toads and toad abodes without any long-winded sermon from myself..... and this is in perennials?? Now I'm not so sure that it might be toads after all. Just check to see if they are loose. |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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| DG, That makes sense. I had never thought of them digging aroudn the roots. To avoid this, do you think it might be helpful to add a small place for them to go like an upturned broken plantpot to hide under? |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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| I agree totally with dirtgirl. Yes, I realize that toads are a gardners very best friend, but, there is a LIMIT as too how much I will tollerate in my flower pots. We live in the country and we litterally have 100 toads in our yard every evening. Several are almost as big as a tennis ball. I know they are eating their share of bugs, the proof is in how fat they are, BUT..in the morning when I water, they have burrowed into my pots (doesn't matter what is planted in them)and are uprooting them and damaging the roots, exposing thethe roots to the hot sun. Not to mention, my boys and husband get a huge laugh when I jump and scream as they jump out while I'm watering. I have had it with these toads, enough is enough. I don't mindthem in the garden and flower beds but PLEASE tell me what to do to discourage them from sleeping in my pots!!! |
RE: Toads and now flowers look sick
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| Dirtgirl, I enjoyed your "sermon". A ring of chickenwire with cutouts for the plants and then covered up with a thin layer of mulch would deter toads digging in the flowerpots. I would just worry about the toads hurting themselves in the attempt to rearend themselves in. Ouch. Think the brown spots more due to extreme amount of moisture. Plant leaves not allowed to dry out are more subject to fungi and rot or leaf burn from hot sun on wet leaves. |
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