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catbirds gone, too quiet

Elaine_NJ6
20 years ago

All of a sudden, the catbirds are gone. I have these wonderful, noisy, boisterous birds all over my garden, all summer long. I think they nest in the miniwoodland. They spend their time dive-bombing the raspberries all day long, screaming in ecstacy as they eat the big, juicy berries. They are also quite enthusiastic about elderberries, crabapples, dogwood berries, and many other fruits, but the raspberries really get them worked up. All of a sudden, last week, I realized that things were much quieter than they had been for months. The catbirds have migrated south. I miss them.

I think the robins also migrated late last week, right before a rainy weekend. They gathered in large flocks, and then they were gone.

Comments (65)

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    20 years ago

    They arrive late. I heard a cardinal in my backyard this morning--just one tentative song. That means it's time to give the Virginia creeper a haircut and cut the butterfly bushes to the ground (those two were a big mistake I planted before I knew to plant only natives). And rake the leaves off some of the spring ephemerals to see if anything's coming up yet.

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    Well, I have been waiting but nothing yet. I really hope the Catbirds come back this year as I enjoyed them so much last year.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    19 years ago

    I have heard them but not seen them yet. That wonderful scream is unmistakable, however.

  • Ilovecatbirds
    19 years ago

    Our Catbirds usually arrive here on Cape Cod the first week of May(along with some Hummers). The Catbirds are here now, but not doing their wonderful song very much. My husband and I think that is because the leaves are not on the trees here yet, and they are still looking where to nest and be hidden. Orioles everywhere though.
    Lets hope the Catbirds start singing in ernest this week, as the trees are finally getting their leaves.
    We had the coldest January on record in MA, so some of the evergreen shrubs ended up losing all their leaves! And sadly, all my roses died.
    Spring is slowly coming though, thank goodness.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    19 years ago

    Saw one today. Heard him screaming his head off, and finally saw him in my woodland. Or her. I love them--they're so feisty.

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    I thought I heard one in the backyard early today but since there was a Mockingbird around that area I figgured it was the Mockingbird doing Catbird immatations. But to my great joy I just saw two Catbirds flying around in the neighbors Oak tree right next to my property. I am so releaved to see them this spring. I was really getting concerned since others on the forum had their neighborhood Catbirds return already and no sign of them here until today. Hurray for Catbirds. Have to be my favorite birds.

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    The Catbirds have been very scarce here this year unfortunately. Yesterday they were trying to get to eat some of the Serviceberries but the Mockingbird have a fit and drove them off. Earlier in the day I had seen the Mockingbird fighting with another Mockingbird that was trying to get some Serviceberries for itself.

    I see the Orioles back there alot, though. Never seen as much of the Orioles as I have this year with all the fruit in the yard but they are here every year. I also see Robins eating the Serviceberry fruit.

    The birds start with the Serviceberies and when the Blueberries start to ripen they just move on to eating those. Right now, they are finishing the last of the Serviceberries and have been eating the Blueberies as I have also.

    The Red Berries from the Red Elderbery are gone so something ate those too. The Red Elderberries are the only one of my elderberries to fruit so far. I hope they all do next year.

    Meanwhile, I miss seeing the Catbirds multiple times each day as I did last summer.

  • clcknits
    19 years ago

    I have quite a few catbirds here this summer. They love the mealworms that I put out every day and the special peanut butter suet that I make for them.
    Gotta love them!
    Cathy

  • sarahbn
    19 years ago

    I have a ton of catbirds every year but no mockingbirds what so ever. Although there is one down the street at the nursery. 2 weeks ago, I was driving into town in Fairmount park anyway a redtail hawk flew right in front of my car so low that I slowed down to see where he was going he stopped at the lamppost and I saw with my own eyes a mockingbird attacking him/her He nearly pecked him to death. Those mockingbirds are pretty aggressive. Sarah

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    The Catbirds are around most everyday now because they are eating the red fruits of the Trumpet Honeysuckle Vines. Go figgure. They must love these as they check them out multiple times a day just like they did with the Serviceberries last year!

    Besides the Honeysuckle fruits right now in my yard the Black Chokeberries are getting ripe. We will see if the Catbirds go for them. Besides that the only other fruits are the Raspberries and Strawberries but the birds leave them alone.

  • JimDC
    19 years ago

    My Catbirds seem to have departed recently. They are loud and very aggressive toward other birds and squirrels, but I enjoy them immensely. Most of the summer they would keep me company while I worked in the garden. It was funny, they would sit on my fence and move along with me as I worked in various areas of the yard (they would always keep a distance of about 10 feet).

  • newjerseytea
    19 years ago

    Jim, I realized this morning that I'd not heard the catbirds recently. It's too early for them to be gone and I thought that perhaps the cooper's hawk got them. The cats usually don't leave until the spice bush berries are gone.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    19 years ago

    If birds stick around while you work in the garden, it's probably because you're stirring things up and scattering insects as you do. The birds are not dumb!

  • sarahbn
    19 years ago

    I always see them in the garden they always come out to see what I am up too and I guess eat all those bugs I stir up too. Sarah

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    As soon as I mowed my lawn the otherday, the Catbirds were hopping around in the new, very short grass catching bugs.

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    The berries on my Species Arrowood Viburnum have been turning blue and steadily being eaten my the Catbirds and Mockingbirds as soon as they turn ripe. I am surprised that the berries are almost gone so this food source is not even going to last into the Fall here.

  • sarahbn
    19 years ago

    That's great Rita! I have an arrowwood blue muffin with loads of fruit but the birds haven't touched it. Sarah

  • newyorkrita
    19 years ago

    My Arrowwood Viburnum Berries start to get eaten as soon as they ripen with both Catbirds and Mockingbirds always visiting the shrubs. Of course, the Catbirds have been gone for quite a while now so only the Mockingbird is left, but those berries are long gone also.

  • newyorkrita
    18 years ago

    Waiting for the Catbirds to show up again this spring.

  • newyorkrita
    18 years ago

    Saw my first Catbird of the year in the garden just afew minutes ago!!! Hurray!!! They are my favorite bird. I know they are not as showey as the Cardinals or Orioles but I really like these birds. When they are not around I miss them.

    There should be plenty of fruit for them this year as my plantings are starting to mature and fruit.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    18 years ago

    I've heard them in the past week but not seen them yet.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    18 years ago

    I think they're gone already. In fact, it might be a week or so since they left. The robins may be gone too, but they're quieter so it's harder to tell. But all of a sudden the loudest sounds I hear are the cardinals clicking, so I'm pretty sure the catbirds are gone. Seems early, so maybe they know something we don't.

  • loris
    18 years ago

    Elaine,

    I saw two in my yard yesterday, and my husband said they were being vocal during the week about some work we're doing in our yard. I think they've been quieter in general lately.

    I'm in Union county, and if my memory's correct that's probably about a 30 minutes drive south of where you are.

  • newyorkrita
    18 years ago

    Mine are still here.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    18 years ago

    After a silent week, the catbirds were very much in evidence yeaterday and today! Go figure! Maybe the residents left and this is a bunch migrating from farther north. Or maybe I'm extremely unobservant.

  • wardw
    18 years ago

    In south Jersey Catbirds remain in small numbers until after Christmas, and a few of those sometimes make it through until spring if there are enough left over berries and it is one of those mild winters. A surprising number of non-hardy birds attempt to winter in our area. Other ones that regularly show up on Christmas Bird Counts include: Baltimore Oriole, Brown Thrasher, and Common Yellowthroat, and in recent years western species of hummingbirds. There are dozens of other examples too. It is somewhat hard to tell exactly when the peak of catbird migration is, the bird is so abundant. It is probably safe to say that the peak has ended by the beginning of October, although diminishing numbers continue to be seen through the end of the year.

  • serenoa
    18 years ago

    According to my notes, I've had catbirds in my north Florida yard October through November and late February to early May. I don't know if I missed them in December and January or if they move further south during our coldest months. The black gum fruits that catbirds love are ripening now and I've been looking for them.

  • wardw
    18 years ago

    You may not have the conditions that Catbirds need in winter. Up here they are usually found in large shrub thickets that are growing on wet soil. Then again maybe you do since black gums at least up here also tend to grow in wet soil. You should check those gums for other birds besides catbirds. They are particularly loved by the thrush clan (all species), but other berry loving birds like Red-eyed Vireo and Scarlet Tanager also use them. There are even berry loving warblers like Black-throated Blue and Cape May. My yard when I was a child had a big gum by the driveway, and all my life thrushes except possibly Wood Thrush which nested in the yard were seen in that tree.

  • serenoa
    18 years ago

    Wardw, winter migrants in their winter range tend to not stake out territories, nest or call for mates. I have a thick hedgerow of native trees and shrubs over four hundred feet long that is adequate habitat for catbirds. I can speculate on their presence or absence but I note only what I see. You are right about watching the black gums. Besides catbirds, I have seen tanagers, thrushes, bluebirds, flickers, red-bellied woodpeckers and more feeding on their fruits. The only veery I have ever seen was in one of my black gums last fall. I heartily recommend them to wildlife gardeners.

  • vegangirl
    18 years ago

    serenoa,, when you mentioned on the attracting birds-some lessons learned thread about the catbird thread, I have to check it out:-) I had no idea black gum attracted fruit-eating birds. After reading yours and wardw's comments,I might have to plant one!

  • wardw
    18 years ago

    Yes, the fruiting of black gums is perfectly timed for fall migrants. Another is staghorn sumac. Many folks think of it more as a weed, often seen growing along interstates, but it has its qualities. Besides a lot fruit in its candles it colors up nicely, something black gums also do. Recently cut-leafed types have come on the market. I've had one for several years in my front yard. The only thing is, it hasn't set fruit yet, and I've begun to wonder whether it ever will.

    Serenoa - there's an easy way to find out whether you have catbirds in your hedgerow in winter, spish at them. Catbirds can't resist spishing at any time of year, they must come and look. If you don't know what spishing is, think of the way people attract the attention of their cats, by repeated blowing short bursts of air to make a short hissing sound. Birders have known this for generations. It mimics the mobbing of predators by small birds - very effective in the eastern US.

  • vegangirl
    18 years ago

    wardw, is the black gum you're talking about the same as black tupelo? What is the scientific name? thanks.
    VG

  • serenoa
    18 years ago

    Black gum and tupelo are names for the same thing. I haven't heard black tupelo but it makes sense. The scientific name is Nyssa sylvatica.

  • vegangirl
    18 years ago

    Serenoa, thanks! I thought it must be the same thing but glad to know for sure.

  • Elaine_NJ6
    Original Author
    18 years ago

    I think they really are gone now. And the robins herded together recently, presumably leaving as well. Right now we have a lot of very active blue jays all over the place. I've never been aware of so many before. Hope they don't chase away the cardinals and other overwintering birds. There's certainly plenty of food for all.

  • wardw
    18 years ago

    We're still seeing dozens of catbirds in our migrant spot along the Delaware River. A few will remain at least into November feeding on berries such as Virginia Creeper, pokeweed, poison ivy, and sumac.

    Robins have begun to switch to berries, the big flocks hitting favorable locations. We see thousands in the evening in Medford heading for their night roosts. In my area smaller flocks will remain all winter, and down at the Delaware Bay Shore thousands, sometimes tens of thousands, will overwinter in the American Holly forests.

  • newyorkrita
    18 years ago

    Waiting for the Catbirds to come back, haven't seen any this spring yet! Cardinals and Mockingbirds are starting to build nests, I see both gathering twigs and grasses in my yard all this week.

  • newyorkrita
    17 years ago

    Hurray!!! The Catbirds are back today. Already saw the Orioles this year also. Plus Blue Jays made a nest in one of my big blue spruce trees.

  • newyorkrita
    17 years ago

    This year the Catbirds are really enjoying my garden. I see two of them many times during the day and often see and hear them sitting and singing that sweaky song of theirs. Usually I have to wait for something to set fruit that they come to eat for them to be around this much but not this year. I think its because my yard is thicker with shruberry than it ever has been before as much of what I have been planting for the last 5 years is starting to fill in and look more like what I had intended!

  • newyorkrita
    16 years ago

    Catbirds and other berry eaters having a feast here this year as my goumi and serviceberries are fruiting like crazy.

  • terryr
    16 years ago

    Rita, do you have pictures online anywhere? I'd love to see how your garden has grown!

  • newyorkrita
    16 years ago

    No, i have a camera but am very bad at posting pictures. Mainly I just never seem to find the time to take pictures and upload them to the computer.

    The catbirds and others really like the mixed shrub border (many viburnums with silky and grey dogwood, serviceberry, shrub cherries, dwarf cherry trees, elderberry, and many others) that has now matured so that it does look like the edge of a woodland just like I had immagined when I planted it. Just past it on the other side, is my neighbors garage and driveway and in most of the shrub border, you can't even tell they are there or whats behind it. I love it and so do the birds.

  • terryr
    16 years ago

    My camera only takes about 2 minutes to upload over a hundred images. Then when I go to Photobucket, I can load as many as I want there. Again not much time. I just think it would be neat to see some before, during and after. I'm keeping track of mine just to see the difference from one year to the next. Currently I have all my photos in the same album. I need to create a new one for outside photos.

  • vonyon
    16 years ago

    Oh Rita, You give me hope. I can't wait until I can't see my neighbors!! ;o)

    If you ever do get some time to take some pictures, we'd reallllllly love to see it. Photobucket makes it really simple to post them.

  • terrene
    16 years ago

    I have really enjoyed reading some of these older threads, there is a lot of good information in them. I really enjoy gardening for wildlife but my gardens are a little behind some of the other posters here. I would love to see pictures of how your gardens have turned out Rita (and anybody else), if you ever get around to it.

    Re the catbirds - they have always hung around in my yard, because of the plantings and the birdbaths. They seem to take a LOT of baths! This winter I put up a Suet Log right outside a window and the catbirds love the homemade suet mixture, so I get to see them up close and personal.

    They do seem to be curious about what I'm doing in the yard sometimes, kind of like the Chickadees. I also enjoy their pretty songs when they aren't making that whiny cat sound.

    Also I dug out an old Burning Bush and replaced it with a 6 foot Serviceberry this Spring (BIG improvement). The berries are ripening and the Catbirds are on the Serviceberry every day.

    They are fun birds to have around!

  • vonyon
    16 years ago

    C'mon, Terrene.....we've seen pics of your bird paradise! What do you mean your garden is behind others? Whatever you plant, it will catch up within a few years. I did the bulk of my native shrub borders about 3 years ago and they are really quite big now. I only bought "small" stuff from NH nursery at the time and a couple of pricey things from Garden in the Woods to get started. You should see all the berries that are in the process of setting now! I'll try to go out and take some pictures. I have to admit, you can still see the neighbors :o(.

  • terrene
    16 years ago

    Hey Vonyon...yes there is lots here to attract the birds. There are many mature native trees and also gardens in the front yard that are a few years old with bird baths and plantings the birds enjoy. Not to mention the feeders.

    But the back yard is a mess...a couple good-sized beds in the formative stages with baby plants (like the NH Nursery seedlings) and the rest looks like a hurricane has gone through! A friend and I have been cutting out Norway maples and there are piles of brush and logs everywhere.

    Now that I think about it, the birds really LIKE all the branches and piles laying around! :)

    If all goes well, in a few short years there will be lots more here for the birds.

  • newyorkrita
    15 years ago

    My Catbirds just arrived today from thier Winter down south. They are my favorite backyard birds. I hope they nest here again like they did last year. Today they were already having a big fight with the local Mockingbirds, lots of scolding at each other from both sides.

  • User
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I haven't seen or heard our catbirds in a few days. I went out looking for them yesterday. They're gone. Normally I see or hear one the moment I walk outside. I really miss them already. I wonder where they went. I live in northeast Florida and our winters aren't usually that cold, but they must have wanted to go south anyway. I can't wait till they com back!

  • tcasey55
    6 years ago

    It’s only March 6th and I just saw a catbird at my birdbath !!! VERY UNUSUAL !!