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Can I plant Winter Greens over my Newly Planted Garlic Bed?

Jbozek
9 years ago

First time winter gardening. Zone 6, Southeastern MA. I have 2 raised beds. 16 X 4 and 20 X 4 both covered with low tunnels and a 2 foot walkway between them. I am also in the process of getting a High Hoop House Frame from a Friend which will be placed over both Raised Beds so I will have a High Hoop (unheated) and 2 low tunnels inside by the end of November. This should keep my Greens from freezing and growing (all be it slower) all winter.

My 20 X 4 bed already has Beets, Lettuce, Cabbage (Red & Green) & Brussels Sprouts in it and they are doing well. They were planted back around Early September. I'm hoping to start Harvesting in December.

My question is... I recently planted Garlic around 10-11-14 in the
16 X 4 raised bed. (6-8 inches deep) Can I plant more winter greens over them and utilize the space more effectively or will the Greens and Garlic compete even through the winter months? I was hoping to plant Collards, Spinach, Kale, & Leafy Lettuce over the Garlic all of which will be pulled and gone come Spring.

Thank you in advance and please let me know your opinion.

Comments (6)

  • laceyvail 6A, WV
    9 years ago

    In a word, no. My garlic is already up and I certainly wouldn't want to be trying to grow winter greens around it. Also, it's very, very late to be sowing anything and to expect it to get to usable size before spring. It's not the cold that does this, it's that the hours of sunlight are too few. Plant that you intend to harvest during winter need to be sown much earlier. Check out Eliot Coleman's books on winter harvest.

  • Jbozek
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Thank you for the follow up post (laceyvail) but I don't feel like that answered my question. I know its late but gardening is about trial & error? Most of the "Greens" I am planning on planting can survive on less than 10 hours of daylight. In Mass, I still have 10 hours of daylight until mid November and then I never have less than 9 hours even up to the winter solstice so although I agree that my greens will not be their best I do believe they will grow, even getting them in this late. I could get lucky and not see a heavy prolonged freeze for some time. Its a roll of the dice I'm willing to try for a few seeds in trays. What I'm not willing to roll the dice on is ruining my 2015 Garlic crop.

    So back to my original question:

    Can I plant on top of my newly seeded garlic? or (to ask a different way), will the roots of leafy greens adversely affect my 2015 Garlic crop, which is planted at a depth of 6-8 inches?

    Looking forward to hearing from the GW community.

    Thanks again in advance.

  • Slimy_Okra
    9 years ago

    A crop seeded now will not yield until early spring (February or more likely March). I would be concerned about the seeding damaging the emerging shoots of the garlic, which if you planted it ~3 weeks ago, should be coming up now. However, I think you can get away with a careful shallow seeding. Maybe dig around a bit to see how deep the emerging garlic shoots are. Lettuce is not very hardy compared to brassicas and spinach, so it may experience winterkill.

    What have you covered the low tunnels with? If it's clear plastic, replace it with spunbonded row covers. On a cold winter night if there is snow on the ground, plants covered with only clear plastic will suffer more damage than those outside.

    This post was edited by Slimy_Okra on Tue, Oct 28, 14 at 16:16

  • Jbozek
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    My Garlic has not come up yet. I have 2 beds, the one with the Brassica Family is covered in Agribon, the other bed with the new Garlic is covered in 6mil poly with one end tied up presently because my area does not have any frosts predicted in the next week or two. As I mentioned in my original post tho, I soon will have a High Hoop House over both beds and at that point it will be covered in poly and then both low tunnels will get the Agribon on them.

    Thanks for the info, I'm starting to see a pattern already. NO. I guess I might need to invest in some indoor grow lights and go that road this year and then start earlier next winter.

    Thanks again,

  • Slimy_Okra
    9 years ago

    I would not say "no". I think you can still seed winter greens and get a very early spring crop. They just won't produce a harvestable winter crop.

  • mister_guy
    9 years ago

    I would honestly think you could consider greens living mulch, and seed the surface, except that garlic and greens are both heavy feeders, so I am not sure it's a great idea to combine them.

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