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You have Whopper - which is a hybrid so why save seeds - or you want Whopper?
Have you looked over on the Tomato Seed Exchange forum.
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato Seed Exchanges

This statement is not logical (to me) Mr Spock: "Because the rate of transpiration was greater when the whole plant was upside-down and conversely slower when parts of the plants were oriented correctly, it is not unreasonable to suggest that gravity does increase the rate of transpiration but only before the plant exhibits gravitropism."
Reason for this assumes that plant wants to grow in upright posture for some reason and resulting bent stems do not "transpire" as efficiently as straight one. Could this (gravitropism) be a result of its proclivity out seek out better sources of light (or new civilizations) and not necessarily to keep leaves from drowning? I do not know. I know that this occurs rather quickly when light orientation is changed on seedlings. And it has nothing to do with the moisture content of their roots' soils. Also note that the all of the non-root growth of the "upside down" plants was probably still below its soil surface in a gravitational sense. Which implies that gravity should have continued to have an effect on transpiration if it, in fact, does. Also, the compromise of transpiration due to the of twisted stems deformation notion is, to me, rather flimsy.
Jeff
This post was edited by reginald_25 on Wed, Jan 22, 14 at 10:25

Lucille, I haven't seen African violet rings in person so I'm not sure. You would just need to be able to secure the rings to something sturdy. I think I started to use the rings with the peppers when they reached about 18" tall.
Robinava, thanks, yes, definitely there are cheaper methods. Although I'll be reusing the rings, so I have to see how long they last to judge how cost effective they are. I would recommend them to someone who wants to grow indeterminate tomatoes in a small amount of space, where other methods won't work. This year I plan to grow some determinates, so I'm also interested in seeing if they'll work with those, without pruning.
This post was edited by dsb22 on Wed, Jan 22, 14 at 6:36


Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will probably follow Dave's suggestion by starting the panels 6-8" above the ground and using the 6' T posts, however I am still considering raising the panels to possibly 10" and using either stakes or twine. Either way I now have options. Thanks again.
Robin


I use wood pellets over the winter. I know they have a binders added to them but they are generally cornstarch or plant gum. Any ideas if adding wood ash from wood pellets would be deleterious to the garden soil and if not, how many cups or pounds should be added per yard of garden soil?
smithmal

2 layers of 2x6" boards is a good height. But the material matters too. If you use pressure-treated boards, the chemicals can leach into your food.
Cedar and some other woods that are naturally rot-resistent are safer. I'm considering the new composite wood/plastic boards. There are some that are 5/4" and pretty sturdy. I think I am going to go with those.

Just put some water in the shade underneath the tomato plants. I did that last year and no more birds pecking on my tomatoes after that.
Of course, another idea is just to have a nice bird bath. You will have a lot of birds visiting you garden. The may also eat some slugs , caterpillars, etc.

You're not crazy. I've actually done this -a few years back I had one 2ft deep row of aggressively pruned and staked tomatoes (not my idea) and wound up with melon and squash vines running beneath the tomatoes (the vines' idea) over the mulch. It worked well - they were rooted elsewhere so there was no nutrient/water competition, and the vines got plenty of sun underneath the poor nekkid tomato plants, which got some shading of their roots.
If the melons have their own root space and you keep an eye out for pests or diseases crossing between the two (powdery mildew? Squash bugs?) I think it's worth a shot.
~emmers

Personally, I think melons are a great groundcover around upright plants like tomatoes in cages. But you would have to fertilize them both carefully. Tomatoes want something close to 2-6-6 because too much nitrogen causes all foliage and no fruits while melons want something more like 4-2-2 (or anything to that scale).
You might consider burying a large plastic bin with the bottom cut out for the melons with their fertilizer requirements, in the middle of tomatoes around them with theirs.


We love to can homemade "V8" (tomatoes, onions, green peppers, carrots go in the mix) juice...One note on this (canning tom-based juice). I have found that it is rather advantageous to simmer the brew until the "froth" more or less goes away. Tom juice treated like that has a much reduced tendency to escape from jars in canning process. Also, the juice will almost remain homogeneous... that is, not separate into layers. Requires more time, but I do not can tom juice without first simmering.
Reggie

When I used to grow more tomatoes and was making sauce, I would lightly smash the matoes in a big pot(with potato smasher, eg) then strain the juice out for drinking. This way, my sauce would thicken faster and at the same time I would have tomato juice.

i m interested in this variety because of its late blight resistance. i grow for market in the blue ridge mountains of southwest va, late blight will keep me from growing tomatoes outside unless i find another way. this variety was recommended in the webinar i watched yesterday on late blight.

I don't have late blight, but TSWV is a plague in this area, so I tried Mountain Merit for its TSWV resistance. Similar to the other Mountain series in size and taste and does have resistance to TSWV. Tastewise just below Amelia and bella Rosa among the TSWV varieties that I have tried. 



Nathalie,
Ask around... in our small town (7500) we can find a good variety of tomato plants at several places including HD, at 2 local ag/feed stores, a small floral/nursery, and even some local cafes. Additionally, don't be afraid to ask neighbors, co-workers, etc. I would think that there would be many places in the Portland area to find these common tomato plants. Good luck, happy gardening, and enjoy!
Tom
In and around Portland, various growers sell tomato plants, with many heirloom kinds.
Just about everyone sells Sungold because, even if all other tomatoes fail, Sungold will thrive.
The box stores are a source as long as you select fresh plants rather than shopworn kinds that have dried out one or more times.
We also have numerous small garden centers which feature heirloom tomatoes in spring. Call around as previously suggested.
Another resource for good quality plants are local farmer's markets
Don't get too anxious about planting, though. Many folks wait until June or later to set out transplants so that the tomatoes receive the consistent warmth they require.
You might be interested in "Growing Your Own" from Oregon State University. Lots of basic info, with a planting chart (lists suitable dates) on page 7. In that pub, Portland is in Region 2.
http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/handle/1957/21092
Here is a link that might be useful: grow your own