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dsb22(z7 VA)

Lucille, I haven't seen African violet rings in person so I'm not sure. You would just need to be able to secure the rings to something sturdy. I think I started to use the rings with the peppers when they reached about 18" tall.

Robinava, thanks, yes, definitely there are cheaper methods. Although I'll be reusing the rings, so I have to see how long they last to judge how cost effective they are. I would recommend them to someone who wants to grow indeterminate tomatoes in a small amount of space, where other methods won't work. This year I plan to grow some determinates, so I'm also interested in seeing if they'll work with those, without pruning.

This post was edited by dsb22 on Wed, Jan 22, 14 at 6:36

    Bookmark     January 21, 2014 at 3:34PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

I love Golden Jubilees. They produce like crazy. They are a yellow cherry tomato.

    Bookmark     January 21, 2014 at 6:15PM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

Concrete remesh is the way to go for indeterminate tomato cages. 25 years and they have never let me down.

Not to say I wouldn't like vinyl-coated concrete remesh...

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 4:44AM
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robinava(6B)

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Will probably follow Dave's suggestion by starting the panels 6-8" above the ground and using the 6' T posts, however I am still considering raising the panels to possibly 10" and using either stakes or twine. Either way I now have options. Thanks again.
Robin

    Bookmark     January 21, 2014 at 9:28AM
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geosankie(5a NEPA)

Looks like Early Blight, a picture of the whole plant would be helpful though.

    Bookmark     January 20, 2014 at 11:40AM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

Do not use charcoal ash or any burned wood with synthetic materials in your yard.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 4:47AM
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smithmal

I use wood pellets over the winter. I know they have a binders added to them but they are generally cornstarch or plant gum. Any ideas if adding wood ash from wood pellets would be deleterious to the garden soil and if not, how many cups or pounds should be added per yard of garden soil?

smithmal

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 8:53AM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

2 layers of 2x6" boards is a good height. But the material matters too. If you use pressure-treated boards, the chemicals can leach into your food.

Cedar and some other woods that are naturally rot-resistent are safer. I'm considering the new composite wood/plastic boards. There are some that are 5/4" and pretty sturdy. I think I am going to go with those.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 4:57AM
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hoosier40 6a Southern IN

yardman,

I am not going to go with any boards or other materials to actually make a raised bed but just a continuous hill more or less. Kind of a halfway measure, but I'll see how it goes.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 8:50AM
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Tomatoe holesAny one know what is eating little holes in my tomatoes.
Posted by brian_ouimet(5 Ont) August 31, 2013
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Just put some water in the shade underneath the tomato plants. I did that last year and no more birds pecking on my tomatoes after that.
Of course, another idea is just to have a nice bird bath. You will have a lot of birds visiting you garden. The may also eat some slugs , caterpillars, etc.

    Bookmark     January 11, 2014 at 2:40AM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

I won't eat it...

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 4:59AM
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emmers_m(9a/Sunset 7 N Cal)

You're not crazy. I've actually done this -a few years back I had one 2ft deep row of aggressively pruned and staked tomatoes (not my idea) and wound up with melon and squash vines running beneath the tomatoes (the vines' idea) over the mulch. It worked well - they were rooted elsewhere so there was no nutrient/water competition, and the vines got plenty of sun underneath the poor nekkid tomato plants, which got some shading of their roots.

If the melons have their own root space and you keep an eye out for pests or diseases crossing between the two (powdery mildew? Squash bugs?) I think it's worth a shot.

~emmers

    Bookmark     January 18, 2014 at 10:25AM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

Personally, I think melons are a great groundcover around upright plants like tomatoes in cages. But you would have to fertilize them both carefully. Tomatoes want something close to 2-6-6 because too much nitrogen causes all foliage and no fruits while melons want something more like 4-2-2 (or anything to that scale).

You might consider burying a large plastic bin with the bottom cut out for the melons with their fertilizer requirements, in the middle of tomatoes around them with theirs.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 4:10AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Sure a name is just a name. But it would be better if there was a relevance and meaning to it, if at all possible: Like pineapple, cherry, ... , Mr stripy. JMO

    Bookmark     January 17, 2014 at 7:14AM
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yardenman(z7 MD)

Every good Brandywine type tastes better than all other tomatoes. Except I sure like a Cherokee Purple just as much in a different way too.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2014 at 3:29AM
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reginald_25(5)

We love to can homemade "V8" (tomatoes, onions, green peppers, carrots go in the mix) juice...One note on this (canning tom-based juice). I have found that it is rather advantageous to simmer the brew until the "froth" more or less goes away. Tom juice treated like that has a much reduced tendency to escape from jars in canning process. Also, the juice will almost remain homogeneous... that is, not separate into layers. Requires more time, but I do not can tom juice without first simmering.

Reggie

    Bookmark     January 15, 2014 at 11:08AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

When I used to grow more tomatoes and was making sauce, I would lightly smash the matoes in a big pot(with potato smasher, eg) then strain the juice out for drinking. This way, my sauce would thicken faster and at the same time I would have tomato juice.

    Bookmark     January 17, 2014 at 7:05AM
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randy41_1

i m interested in this variety because of its late blight resistance. i grow for market in the blue ridge mountains of southwest va, late blight will keep me from growing tomatoes outside unless i find another way. this variety was recommended in the webinar i watched yesterday on late blight.

    Bookmark     January 15, 2014 at 4:49AM
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farmerdill

I don't have late blight, but TSWV is a plague in this area, so I tried Mountain Merit for its TSWV resistance. Similar to the other Mountain series in size and taste and does have resistance to TSWV. Tastewise just below Amelia and bella Rosa among the TSWV varieties that I have tried.

    Bookmark     January 15, 2014 at 8:35AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

This is a frequent question up for discussion over on the Growing from Seed forum so you may want to do some more reading on that forum here.

First, So, if I have dozens of seeds planted and the first ones sprout, how do I get them to light without transplanting them and at the same time not disturb the majority of seed still(underground) in the germninating process which is not supposed to be exposed to light?

Nothing says un-germinated seedlings cannot be exposed to light. That only applies to a few flowers. Light/no light makes no difference to tomato seeds. But the standard practice is to transplant as they sprout OR if you spaced your seeding well just let them grow there until most of the other sprout.

Second, they also say to never transplant until the first true leaf. is merely a recommendation not an absolute. Millions of seedlings get transplanted at the cotyledon stage. It is just a bit more difficult to do until you gain some experience and a bit more care is needed to avoid damaging the stem. Try some and you'll see how easy it is to do. Handle by the cotyledons and bury most of the stem.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 14, 2014 at 12:12PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

One of the ways to deal effectively with too much rain and wet weather is to construct raised bed, in addition to amending the soil. I garden here at PNW, where we get a lot of rain. Sometimes it rains for days in the spring time. That is why I made raised beds. Raised bed, being higher than its surrounding will have a good drainage, if slightly amended. If your soil in Rock hill anything like GA red clay and you are gardening in a flat plot, then that might be the problem.

JMO

    Bookmark     January 8, 2014 at 7:50PM
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larryw(z6Ohio)

Thank you all for your suggestions. By the way, the information from Clemson was absolutely comprehensive!

    Bookmark     January 14, 2014 at 7:56AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

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This post was edited by digdirt on Sun, Jan 12, 14 at 15:39

    Bookmark     January 12, 2014 at 3:38PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

As roper said , and I agree with him, some of the special purpose forums do not get much traffic. So posting there is like blowing in the wind. Believe me I have tried some.
As far as I am concerned, this is "THE" TOMATO forum and we should be able to talk about any TOMATO related subject right here.
JMO

    Bookmark     January 12, 2014 at 11:31PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

As mentioned, CLONING in this case is just propagation by rooting any cutting. I do that mostly with store bough basil, shiso, mint and few other things, instead of growing from seed.

    Bookmark     January 11, 2014 at 2:45AM
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kioni(3)

I clip a 3-4 inch tip growth, remove any new bloom truss if there is one, allow to hydrate in a glass of water for an hour or the day, then set cutting in a small pot of potting/seed starting mix, and within a week it has rooted.

I kept one indoors through our 8 month winter, just to try as an experiment. The cuttings I took from it in the spring grew just as well as the mother plant did the summer before. I did this because I'd developed a mistrust with packet seeds in that what I'd grown from the packet description was not what I had growing in the ground! My space is limited and tight, so I want to be sure if I am growing a specific variety, that is what I get.

I could not do it this past winter, some kind of blight attacked the plant mid summer and I did not think it wise to try to keep a less than perfectly healthy specimen over the long winter.

    Bookmark     January 11, 2014 at 10:56AM
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missingtheobvious(Blue Ridge 7a)

Plant the shorter varieties in the community garden and the taller ones at home. Utilize dwarf varieties.

The best sources I've found for plant height are these three:

= the DG Cultivar Finder (which this site won't let me link to, but if you Google "cultivar finder" (with quotation marks) and tomatoes, you'll see it). Plants are in rough height categories. Keep in mind that this is amateur-provided info.

= Ventmarin is a huge database in French, and also amateur-provided info which is occasionally totally off the wall. There are also some eccentricities due to the language differences; for example, all oxhearts are listed as "coeur de boeuf" ("heart of beef") and then the rest of the variety name.

It gives height for roughly half the varieties -- in centimeters. Multiplying by .39 gives height in inches ... or use one of the many sites which will convert from metric to feet.
http://ventmarin.free.fr/passion_tomates/passion_tomate.htm

[They also give fruit weight in grams: divide by 28 for weight in ounces.]

= Rutgers's Tomato Varieties database. I haven't used this one as much.
http://njaes.rutgers.edu/tomato-varieties/

In addition, Tatiana's TOMATObase sometimes gives height, or gives hints that a plant is particularly large. You can also look here under "Tomatoes by growth habit" for lists of dwarf, determinate, and container varieties:
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Category:Tomatoes

Another possibility is to grow tomatoes on a trellis which is not vertical but slanted or horizontal. I've seen photos of this done with CRW (concrete reinforcement wire) or cattle panels (aka hog panels, stock panels), but if that's not an option, you can use fence wire with smaller holes. If you're growing tomatoes this way, you'll need to weave the vines into the mesh every few days to keep them from going vertical. [You can also use a trellis for pole beans, cucumbers, etc.]

    Bookmark     January 10, 2014 at 11:26AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree with missing - just grow determinate varieties in the CG. Any healthy indeterminate is going to shade things no matter how it may be supported.

BUt best supports - CRW (concrete reinforcing wire) cages are best. Lots of discussions here about them.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 10, 2014 at 6:44PM
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