16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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soilent_green

"Growing tomatoes in Minnesota must be challenging. What techniques do you use to help speed up the growing?" - In all honesty the only technique I have found to work is patience and acceptance of the fact that the tomatoes will come when they come. And to never fertilize tomato plants with a high nitrogen fertilizer unless you like giant tomato shrubs with poor fruit production. ;) A little bit of neglect in strategic areas can help in overall success and quality.

IMHO as much as I have experimented in the past I now accept that you simply cannot do anything to speed up the process of getting (good quality) ripe tomatoes, as much as I would dearly love to do so. All the more reason to appreciate and enjoy them when in season.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2013 at 1:15PM
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soilent_green

Btw, making sauce with non-paste tomatoes and taking all that time to reduce it until it thickens? My sister does that, best sauce I have ever tasted. IMO a simple method of achieving excellent results of which many people are not aware. As for me, I simply do not have that kind of patience in the kitchen...

The crate of pastes contains Incas, Classica, my own sausage-type, and other crosses.

The crate of beefsteaks include Zarnitsa, Earl's Faux, Big Boy, Oregon, Black from Tula, Mortgage Lifter, Tomesol White, a medium yellow/orange off-type from Kellogg's Breakfast that I saved and stabilized, and one or two crosses.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2013 at 1:49PM
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purple1701(5B Chicago)

oh my gosh t-bird, I know! I actually did check the 10 day, a well as the monthly... and I did not see that. But at any rate, I used boxes to cover them, so hopefully they will survive. Last night was the last of it so I'm hoping that wasn't too much for them.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2013 at 11:48AM
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purple1701(5B Chicago)

just an update in case anyone comes across this and wonders what happened:

the vine-type tomatoes did great on the pallets. I had to tie them up a few times, but overall they functioned well enough for what I hoped. The bush tomatoes did not do so well on them. Luckily I only had one of those.

I probably won't do this again next year unless I have to though, I think there are definitely better solutions to be had.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2013 at 12:03PM
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fireduck(10a)

re-read....I see you said galvanized. haha

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 10:00AM
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john11840(z6/CT)

Fireduck - Yes, that's the reason I used galvanized because the re-mesh rusts.
John A

    Bookmark     September 4, 2013 at 12:00PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Are you growing them inn ground ? Fertilize them ? Just one type of tom ?

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 8:26PM
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winemaker54(5a)

these tomatoes are supposed to be "slicers" but I cooked some today and they made very good tomato soup so I will be able to use them at least.
They were grown in huge planters - about 20 L.- have been well fertilized and watered. I am growing 3 other varieties in the same manner that are very successful - lots of fruits and nice flavor and texture

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 10:01PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Brandywine is a Beefsteak tomato

Here is a link that might be useful: wikipedia

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 7:42PM
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fireduck(10a)

S...you make a great point right there! I am growing in 15 gal nursery pots...and next year I plan to go up to 20 gal trash cans. It is kind of fun to tweek things to get better results. Thankyou for the insight.

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 8:50PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that you don't want them on the window, don't want them in direct sun. When we say ripen on the counter that doesn't mean in the window or the direct sun.

Can't say why your Grandmother thought the window sun was needed.

Dave

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 5:34PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Because everyone thought the window sill ripened them due to sunlight ,theY did not know any better ,kinda like they thought small pepples in the bottom of your planters increased drainage

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 7:35PM
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john11840(z6/CT)

I planted 6 seeds this year and got 5 RL seedlings and 1 PL. I planted the PL and 1 RL. The RL produced 3 big, beautiful, tasty toms that look exactly like the photos on Taniana's website. The PL toms aren't ready yet. It looks like they need another 2 weeks at least. Admittedly, I got the seed in an exchange.
John A

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 11:51AM
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tormato

I've been getting both PL and RL seedlings from Stump of the World since 2003. Saved PL seed and saved RL seed each produce PL and RL seedlings. Tomatoes from PL and RL plants tasted the same. My source for seed was Chuck Wyatt.

If one runs across a tomato called Perpetual Change, it's this PL and RL version of Stump of the World.

Gary

    Bookmark     September 3, 2013 at 12:37PM
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rhapsody616(10B)

Where do you find the seeds and not have to pay $20.00 for 10?

    Bookmark     September 2, 2013 at 4:12PM
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soilent_green

Try variety Cherry Falls from Livingston Seed Co. Cascading cherry tomato type, best to place on some kind of plant stand. I put three plants in one 15 gallon pot. Incredibly heavy production, got more tomatoes than I could use. Ended up pulling the loaded plants when garden plants started producing. Decent flavor, thin skin. Not a fan of cherry tomatoes in general but I want early tomatoes, and container cherries are my best chance of achieving this goal.

Have been growing Red Robins for many years. Cherry Falls beats Red Robin hands down.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2013 at 5:46PM
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sheltieche

I think it would be impossible to ID this tomato, it could be cross pollination as well as mixed up labels. I am glad you resurfaced this thread as I am eyeing this variety as one of the options for next year Glad to hear it has rave reviews!

    Bookmark     September 2, 2013 at 10:58AM
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mary14889

Hi Linda,
The seeds came from Baker's Creek which is a very reputable source. I think it was a labeling error by the student grower rather than a breeding error. My own labels fall out and get mixed up sometimes so I sympathize. I looked through the orange tomato varieties in the catalog and this is the one that sounded like the best match. I have attached the photo from the catalog. They don't show one in profile so it is hard to say. I guess the thing to do is order some from the catalog next year and see if they come out the same. I also intend to save seeds from this beautiful tomato. Blight or septoria set in mid season this year. I still got lots of tomatoes though the plants are mostly dead now. Some of the tomato varieties get blemishes on the fruit but this one came though spotlessly.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2013 at 11:21AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Cut back on watering , and yes some varieties are more prone to cracking

    Bookmark     September 1, 2013 at 11:40PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Also, if they are cracking after color break, why not pick them soon after color break and let them ripen inside. This way there will be no spoilage and maybe tastier (less water).

    Bookmark     September 2, 2013 at 1:11AM
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CaraRose

My guess would be powdery mildew

Here is a link that might be useful: Powdery mildew on toms, google images

    Bookmark     September 1, 2013 at 10:49PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Powdery mildew wouldn't be on the soil.

We need pictures! If none, everything is a guess.

    Bookmark     September 1, 2013 at 11:15PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

I'm glad to see that the sun was shining b/c there was a chance of strong storms.

Craig LeHoullier is my best tomato friend, and more, and we've known each other for about 23 years now and Craig and Lee have hosted Tomatopalooza for many years now and it has always been a success with great attendance.

I know it was held at Efland and I looked in the picture to see if another one of my friends was there b'c he lives in Efland. Shoe Griffen is his name and he along with two others do most of my seed production for me now that I can't, and Craig raises all my plants for me and ships them up there.

I asked both Lee and Craig, I forgot to e-mail Shoe, to make sure that none of the fruits from my new varieties were out there so folks could get seeds and Lee said not to worry b'c they keep an eye on varieties such as those as well as the fruits from the Dwarf Project that haven't yet been released/

It takes a tremendous amount of work to set up the tables like that with the signs and cut fruits and labelled plates and I do hope that folks appreciate that/

It sounds like you had a good time and I'm glad for that.

Carolyn

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 9:34PM
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sheltieche

I canôt help but drool over the pictures LOL
so many to try...
How does one goes around about finding local gatherings of similar origin?
We have local small group of tomato peeps and I really would love to get to know more Chicagoland growing tomatoers and tomatoettes and either join or help organize something similar.

    Bookmark     September 1, 2013 at 7:19AM
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fireduck(10a)

Container growing has been good to me this season...but it is certainly different than in-ground. Grow bags seem to work for many....but sure dry out quickly. This means lots of work. Larger is generally better. Fast-draining mixes is important. Feed regularly.

    Bookmark     August 31, 2013 at 2:49PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

The bags you are using are too shallow,... the large bag opening allows to for rapid evaporation ....., and you have two to many plants in each bag........check around the web for different bag/container ideas .....

    Bookmark     August 31, 2013 at 11:35PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I obviously screwed up on that post, I'll try and figure out what went wrong and re- post.
Chic
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you can "Edit" your post.

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Edited:
I just edited my post. When you click on "Edit Post", your original post will open. Then do any addition, deletion and then update it.

This post was edited by seysonn on Fri, Aug 30, 13 at 23:08

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 11:04PM
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braeburn040(2B/3 BC)

Further to my earlier posting on Marvel Tomato Here is a few photos of different stages.
Chic


Ready to eat

ready to pick


not quite ready to pick

    Bookmark     August 31, 2013 at 7:05PM
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nugrdnnut(6a n-c WA)

They (the hornworms) were actually something of a treat to have... for my puppy that is. After taking off the tomatoe plant Belle would play with and then eventually eat them. I told my honey that belle got 4-6 servings of greens today.

But boy can they defoliate a branch overnight.

tom

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 9:11PM
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lkzz(7b)

Squash Vine Borers are worse, IMO. At least the hornworms can be picked off when damage is seen. SVB's do damage and are often impossible to remove and have plant recover.

Hate them with a rather violent passion...

At least the chickens can eat the hornworms.

    Bookmark     August 31, 2013 at 7:00PM
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