16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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homegroan(3a)

My brother told me he had tomatoes in Dallas that he kept alive during the scorching months, and they didn't start to fruit until the weather cooled.

I've had the opposite situation, weather wise. I'm in northern MN. Our temps stayed in the 60's and 70's for most of July. As soon as the weather warmed, my plants began to really take off. Now they all have gorgeous fruit and some are still blooming.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 3:17PM
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Traceyb66

This image is the best I can get at the moment. The plant usually sits on a window ledge where the sun gets its all day. I water it every few days and use tomato feed once a week. I'm not sure what kind it is as I was given them by an acquittance I am no longer in contact with. As you can see its starting to grow a bit wild. Lol.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 5:49PM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

I think Jean probably has the correct diagnosis, but can't tell for sure since we don't have a closeup. If it were early blight there would be watery looking brown spots on the leaves and stems and even the fruit would be affected.

If it is strictly a watering issue, just get the watering and feeding back to normal and the plants should put out new leaves. You season is long enough that it should be useful. Of course if you prefer, you can dispose of the plants since I think some people in your zone plant a late crop? (Not sure about that, we don't have that option here in Idaho.)

At any rate, if you water them and feed them as one normally does for tomatoes in pots, the fruit on the plant would have a chance to ripen.

I hope that helps.

Betsy

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 9:23AM
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robertz6

Did your neighbor water the soil, or water the top of the plants?

My neighbor watered the tops of his plants. I told him that spreads the blights at a much faster rate than if water was applied at the soil. Most of his plants were brown in July.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 1:07PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Dave said it all.
In MO and many other places, fertilizing tomatoes at this time is not going to do much good. Remember that most nutrients stick around for quite a while , if planted in the ground. Exception might be the Nitrogen but you don't need that now anyway.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:36PM
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robertz6

Seysonn:

You don't think there is any chance that a indeterminate cherry tomato might benefit from fertilizer this late in the season?

I have not used fertilizer on my tomatoes past the month of August, but mainly out of laziness. I usually get cherry tomatoes thru the end of October. State of Missouri.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 1:00PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Do you grow from seed or buy your transplants? If you use store bought transplants your choices will be very limited. So you'd have to focus on adjusting the growing conditions to eliminate all they contribute to thick skins. Do you grow in containers or in the ground? Do you want determinate or an indeterminate variety?

If you grow your own from seed then consider Sun Gold, Super Sweet, Coyote, Riesentraube, or Isis Candy to name just a few. But accept that with the thinner skins you will have much more fruit splitting.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 12:33PM
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coconut_head(5b)

I have several tomatoes in a hugelkultur bed and still got late blight infections on the plants.

Though truthfully I doubt anything other than physical isolation could stop a late blight infection. It's like Ebola, only for tomatoes, and spread by air currents!

CH

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 3:03PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Back on the subjec: Effects of rotten log:

I think most organic matter can play similar role. Instead of a rotten log you can bury lots of coarse compost , mixed with some peat moss, underneath the top 8 inch standard soil. It will play similar role. The root system can grow much easily in that medium than in a compacted medium. The same idea is applied in soil less potting mixes that provide a fluffy ,less compact medium.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2013 at 3:03AM
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homegroan(3a)

TY for that info, seysonn. I'd hate to ruin them after all the work and love I've put into them.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 8:44PM
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fireduck(10a)

S....actually, my Cherokee Purples have had no radial cracks at all. For me, they are a better quality fruit.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 10:16PM
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thebutcher(6b (Philadelphia area))

Sorry for double post but here is the evidence of them birds. I taped a few hours of it but this video is only about 17 minutes long. The sound is kind of dull because my GoPro camera had the the full housing on it.

Sorry for lack of music and sound but thought it was interesting when I placed them CD's up and awaiting the bird netting ect... The camera was rolling with out anyone on it, just placed next to one of my other plants for a few hours.

Thanks again all,

- Mr Beno

Here is a link that might be useful: Watch them birds fly near my garden

This post was edited by thebutcher on Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 19:30

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 7:28PM
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thebutcher(6b (Philadelphia area))

No luck this time but this can be a good thing. The battery cut out after 40 min and no birds, it should of lasted for about 2 hours but I forgot to charge it all the way. Anyway I made this out of a red cup with ductape and put my trusty old Gopro up. I was trying to think that the birds would fly around the red cup

Tomorrow I will do the other direction and make it spin more. Knock on wood though no new pecks in the new maters I pulled off today, so maybe those CD's are really helping a lot? lol

Edit: on Bird net, I jut got it today and will do it in a few days for added protection. So now I got the water pan out, CD's reflecting and gona try to find that reflective tape as well.

This post was edited by thebutcher on Thu, Aug 29, 13 at 19:07

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 7:05PM
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jenniedhs_7b_nc

Joe, mine are pretty much goners as we had so much rain in the last month it was impossible to keep up with spraying. And now we are away for a week. Would like to hear how this milk treatment does for you. I had not heard of spraying with a milk solution.
Jennie

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 9:27PM
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jenniedhs_7b_nc

Update: Returned home today. I am almost positive this is Septoria Leaf Spot as the dark spots have grey centers and the fruit are unaffected. If it were bacterial Spot the fruit would be affected. And the hybrids finally succumbed to it also. I have quit spraying as it is too far gone, but I am not pulling the plants yet hoping some of the green tomatoes start to blush. I can't complain, I have had the best year in five years! We froze, ate, gave away and still couldn't keep up with the production. First year doing containers and I am a convert!
Jennie

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 6:10PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I can't tell you about the 90+ heat as Bonnie claims. We have barely been in to the 90's a few days this year. We are usually having 100+ heat in July and August.

A lot of nights have dipped in to the mid 50's and it has been cloudy and/or raining almost all day every day.

It was planted later than my other tomatoes and has just gotten started fruit wise. The plant is still small, only 2' tall.

It is a thicker skinned fruit, but I don't mind that, more fiber! ;)

I'm just happy to get some tomatoes with some taste this year.

My tomatoes have been crappy taste wise this year.

This was like that first tomato from the garden after eating the fake tomatoes all winter from the grocery store.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 1:03PM
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jrslick (North Central Kansas, Zone 5B)

If you like Phoenix, try Florida 91. It is a "sister" variety to Phoenix. We have over 250 of these plants growing and harvesting from for the late summer/early fall. I like their predictability and uniformity. We harvest after they start to blush/about half red. I know that when we do this, take inside to our storage area, they will be bright beautiful red in 1.5 to 2 days. Then they will hold at that bright red for another 3 to 5 days without any loss in quality.

We grow these plants outside and inside high tunnels and both are performing wonderfully!

Here is a picture of some Florida 91's that we had at our December Farmers Market several years ago. Most were picked at blushing to green the week before the market. They were grown in our high tunnel.

Enjoy,

Jay

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 3:04PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

All sorts of issues can cause lesions/blotches on stems besides Late Blight. No reason to just jump to the worst possible conclusion just based on that one symptom. Especially when LB is the least common of the possible causes.

Dave.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 1:22PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

If you scraped the stem lesions a week ago, but the plants are still alive, it's not late blight.

Please post pictures.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 1:32PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

@ home groan
Tell me about it ! PROMISING ? hehe. I don,t know. Mine are still green and half the size they should be.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:14PM
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donna_in_sask

What do you think about the Stupice and Rutgers? I am growing both for the first time. Stupice was the first one to ripen but it was sort of "meh" as far as taste goes - not sure whether I would grow them again. Rutgers have set lots of fruit but nothing ripe yet.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 12:27PM
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homegroan(3a)

LOL! Maybe the tough skin isn't on the tomato. ;)

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 3:23PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It is easy to get skin off.
Drop them in boiling water fir 15 seconds, take them out put in ice water . then peel them the skin will peel off real asy. I do this for cooking and sometimes for slicing. Tomato skin(thin or thick) is indigestible. So are the seeds.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:30PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Gather your browser information, OS etc and inquire at Computer Help Forum - GardenWeb. I've no problem with FF23x and Windows 7 .

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 2:34PM
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labradors_gw

Thanks Albert 135. I just went over there and posted a msg.

Garden Web is amazing. They have so many different topics here!

Linda

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 3:34PM
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gardenwheels(6a)

For me this year, Mortgage Lifter (though that name seems to include several varieties -- mine bought as a seedling so I don't know which), and Mr Stripey, which is making very large and tasty fruit.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2013 at 9:55PM
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coconut_head(5b)

My Two largest this year are Homer Fikes Yellow Oxheart and Andrew Ruhart's Jumbo Red.

HFYO top tomato 2lbs even, and several others in the 1lb 12 oz range.

ARJR top tomato 1lb 12oz, and many more at 1lb 8oz range.

Flavor TBD as I haven't eaten any of those yet.

CH

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 11:45AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 7:54AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:00AM
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