16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

@ home groan
Tell me about it ! PROMISING ? hehe. I don,t know. Mine are still green and half the size they should be.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:14PM
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donna_in_sask

What do you think about the Stupice and Rutgers? I am growing both for the first time. Stupice was the first one to ripen but it was sort of "meh" as far as taste goes - not sure whether I would grow them again. Rutgers have set lots of fruit but nothing ripe yet.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2013 at 12:27PM
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homegroan(3a)

LOL! Maybe the tough skin isn't on the tomato. ;)

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 3:23PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It is easy to get skin off.
Drop them in boiling water fir 15 seconds, take them out put in ice water . then peel them the skin will peel off real asy. I do this for cooking and sometimes for slicing. Tomato skin(thin or thick) is indigestible. So are the seeds.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:30PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Gather your browser information, OS etc and inquire at Computer Help Forum - GardenWeb. I've no problem with FF23x and Windows 7 .

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 2:34PM
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labradors_gw

Thanks Albert 135. I just went over there and posted a msg.

Garden Web is amazing. They have so many different topics here!

Linda

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 3:34PM
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gardenwheels(6a)

For me this year, Mortgage Lifter (though that name seems to include several varieties -- mine bought as a seedling so I don't know which), and Mr Stripey, which is making very large and tasty fruit.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2013 at 9:55PM
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coconut_head(5b)

My Two largest this year are Homer Fikes Yellow Oxheart and Andrew Ruhart's Jumbo Red.

HFYO top tomato 2lbs even, and several others in the 1lb 12 oz range.

ARJR top tomato 1lb 12oz, and many more at 1lb 8oz range.

Flavor TBD as I haven't eaten any of those yet.

CH

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 11:45AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 7:54AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:00AM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

nj,,

I know Gardener's Delight and Chadwick Cherry, aka Camp Joy as OP's and not hybrids and both have been long known as OP,

When were hybrids created from them and how?

Thanks,

Carolyn

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 3:37PM
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njitgrad

my mistake

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 4:21PM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

Agree with what Dave says. Also have comment with questions:

That bed they are in looks awfully small. What is the soil like about 2 feet down? I ask because I have seen sidewalk beds that have next to no dirt in them, the concrete footing from a building on one side fills most of the space. I've seen others that have the cement truck "over run" in the bottom of them.

Is there anything growing behind the fence? If there is, it could be competing with your tomato plants for nutrients. In that case you might have to feed heavier than usual for the tomatoes to benefit from it.

Also, soil tends to be compacted under sidewalks, so that bed may effectively be a container, and you might need to feed your tomato plants like they were in a container.

The plants also appear to be mighty close together.

How much sunlight do they get?

Betsy

This post was edited by bets on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 23:01

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 10:59PM
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elgatoloco(8 Dallas)

Hang in there. I live in Texas and I'm getting serious blossom drop right now because it's so darn hot. Tomatoes like warm weather but not too warm. I've noticed when night time temps stay above 80F, they don't produce well. Also, some varieties are more heat tolerant than others. I'll bet if you stick with it for another month or two, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Blossom drop can actually be a good thing. It means that the plant will put more energy into the green foliage which means more blossoms later. Come October I bet you'll have a nice little harvest.

The yellowing on the lower half of the plant concerns me a little. Without knowing exactly how much you water and how rich the soil is, it's tough to diagnose because it could mean 1 of 3 things. Too much water, too much nitrogen or not enough nitrogen. If you're using compost, the nitrogen should be good. So I think I agree with digdirt. I think it's over watering. Tomatoes are pretty hearty and can survive well with little water. Let them dry out a little and see if that works. If that is the problem, you should notice a difference in about two weeks.

I do disagree with digdirt on the fertilizer. The top half of the plant is very healthy looking which makes me think that the NPK numbers are good. Also, too much fertilizer can cause blossom drop as well. So if it were my plant, I think I would stop fertilizing too. The compost should be plenty rich enough.

That's my two cents. Keep in mind, i'm not an expert. I'm only telling you what I would do.

Good luck

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 11:02PM
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lartomato(5 northern AZ 7000 feet)

Well they both tastes great only the hearts are a little smaller. The beefstakeas make a great meaty matter sandwich which gets all over your face

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 3:58PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Having grown true Rostova, as I noted above, I think it's a great variety, but I havent seen anyone with true Rostova in many years.

I was curious to see what Tania said, but I kind of knew before I grabbed the link b'c we'd discussed it before .So I linked to it below and she's spot on.

Carolyn

Here is a link that might be useful: SRH

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:28PM
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speckledhound

I agree--that's about the stage mine were at after four weeks. Growth seems a little slow at first, but it won't be long till they growing like crazy and you can't keep up with them...which is where I am now.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2013 at 10:36PM
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SproutingLexi(9b)

hmm, this makes me wonder what's wrong with mine. Started from seed 5 weeks ago, sprouted in two days, but now they only have two true leaves each. They're SS100s.

I did transplant them a week ago, could that have caused them to focus on the roots for now?

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 1:02PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I wasn't aware that any of them are claiming to "prevent blights". That would seem to be a rather specious claim since the "blights" fungi are airborne. Improved rootstock would seem to have little effect on airborne diseases. Who is making that claim as I'd like to read more about it?

I do know they claim increased resistance (rather than prevention) to the soil born disease problems like the various wilts.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 1:59PM
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napapen(ca 15)

I've grown 2 grafted tomatoes this year and last year. I wanted to see what the difference might be. Also grafted eggplant and pepper this year. I saved seed from last year's tomatoes and they seem to be doing just as well as they did last on grafted roots.

The biggest difference was with the eggplants this year. The grafted had big fruit earlier.

Penny

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 8:47PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Here is a picture of a BLACK PRINCE from the above named net page

I think what I have, is more like this one than the BK shown before, whwn I compare fruits shape.

This post was edited by seysonn on Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 2:02

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 1:57AM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

When I looked at PNWG's blog, I see that even his sungold has some leaf rolling and he does prune heavily. To me, they all look stressed.

Betsy

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 12:28PM
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Marshallkey

jimster is right Plant Physiology will answer your question. From a common sense gardening perspective, after a lot of experimenting ( 25yrs) , If you trim non fruit producing branches from a tomato plant you will get bigger fruit . Trim to much and you'll get some sun burning and splitting ! .

    Bookmark     August 21, 2013 at 7:42AM
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joeorganictomatoes(6A)

This is the 1st year I have tried pruning non fruit producing branches and have had great success in spite of the fact that this has been a terrible year for growing tomatoes in my area. For example my German Johnson heirloom is yielding large fruit ( 1lb +). I put this plant in ground on May 2nd. It is now loaded with large size fruit that I will be able to harvest before the 1st predicted frost date of Sept 22nd.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 12:03PM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

What a cute little frog!

Glad to hear your Pruden's is producing well. It's been said many times, patice has its virtues. LOL!

I think I need to grow Pruden's Purple again, it's been a while. They were delicious when I last grew them.

Betsy

So many tomatoes, so little time!

This post was edited by bets on Sat, Aug 24, 13 at 12:11

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 12:08PM
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mandolls(4)

Yep - while last year mine didnt do well, My Pruden's has quite a lot of fruit this year. at least 30 going. I picked the first one last week and it was nice and big and delish! Probably the tastiest tomato so far this year.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 8:12AM
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algbas

new poster ..I believe I have late blight and it has spread like wildfire and so I am trying to educate myself as I have never exp'ed anything like this before...I have had early blight with not much trouble of keep pruned and well feed that being enough..This Late Blight is turning out to be a different animal
:(

Last night I actually had a nightmare and woke up in a cold sweat.

I read alot varying advice and went ahead and treated with the Donacil/Chlorothalonil, Ortho"Garden Disease Control" says it stops over 130 Diseases so we will see...My thought is once this has started in your its "All Over" as I have not see anyone say "Its stopped the onslaught" only Prevented..so wiped brow and will see.

My waiting brings me to ask if I pick my large green now before they even look like they have been affected might they still be infected if put into paper bags to try n rippen..I suppose It could not hurt to pic a few and see but wonder if anyone has exp. with this or will they too succume it time..I found this link that I thought I would post too as there is much debate on what to do and use ..

Here is a link that might be useful: Late Blight in Tomatoesàand Potatoesà��

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 5:45PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I Don't know if the blight fungus is seriously harmaful to humans. An I doubt that they will persist to exist if you wash the fruits. It is a plant disease, not a humane disease.

That is my understanding.
But if you spray the plant (with fruits on it,) you have to check the pesticide's label. probably you should not consume them for like 5 days. This is the chemical in the spray not the fungus.

About harvesting tomatoes:
I have recently learned on this forum that if you pick a tomato, as early as you see a color break, you can safely pick and let it fully ripen inside, without any bag or direct sun.

So this way, you can save some of the tomatoes even if you lose the plant.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 3:28AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Looks like some catfacing, also a caterpillar nibble that sealed.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 1:42AM
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