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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Baxter's is a regular leaf not a rugose leaf plant. But even if this was a regular leaf plant there still wouldn't be anyway to put a name to it.

We get lots of requests here every year to ID tomato plants and the answer is always the same - it isn't possible to do. You can pull up all the 'id the tomato plant' posts here to confirm what I am saying,

People simply do not understand that there are thousands and thousands of tomato varieties out there and hundreds of each type, size, shape, and fruit color that look exactly like each other.

Even DNA testing of the plant could not confirm the variety name since so many have the same parental line contributors. So don't worry about it.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 2:48PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

At the very first look at the picture, I thought it looks lik my SWEET_N_NEAT dwarfs. They are less than a foot tall, and span on the ground about one foot. A long shot of the plant can be helpful to better narrow down its variety.

here is a picture of mine

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 3:45PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Nope, appears to have gotten all it needed. It's just a small tomato. More growing conditions related than pollination. All plants have them now and then.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 3:14PM
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bsmith717(6)

Strange, maybe the stem/branch it was on had been damaged and I didnt realize it. It's the only one like that I have seen this year. It also has a rough texture to it.... maybe I will eat it!

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 3:31PM
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MLcom(z6NJ)

Suggest go to this section of the forum http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/tompests/

was set up for that type of ?

ml

    Bookmark     August 13, 2013 at 10:04AM
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DVTO2

I use fertile soil, drip irrigation, and a mulch to cover the ground to try and hold down the viruses. So far I am getting some problems on the lower leaves of some plants but am doing much better, here in northern CT, than I have before I started doing this. I use cardboard boxes for mulch - they are cheap (free from the dump) and easy to lay down.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 3:25PM
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2ajsmama

Oh, shoot! As if we didn't have enough disease with all the wet weather. Have you gotten any ripe tomatoes yet down there?

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 6:58AM
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dancinglemons(7B VA)

We had our very first voles ever this year -and- that looks just like the damage they did for us. The only reason we know for sure it was voles is because we saw them running across our driveway one night when we came in late. They took up residence in our raised bed. We gave them an eviction notice with some PermaTill (tiny little sharp rocks). At season end we will mix a large amount of PermaTill into all of our raised beds.

Cheers,
DL

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 2:52AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I think , your other (better ?) option is to pick the maters at color break and ripen them inside.

On the suspect front, I can name THE RATS. That is what I have first hand experience with them. Sure other criters are capable of committing the crime as well. (Grin)

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 5:56AM
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junebugntn(7B)

Any recommendations for next year of a large tomato that might do better?

    Bookmark     August 12, 2013 at 9:15AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Any recommendations for next year of a large tomato that might do better?

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Do NOT plant Beefsteaks !

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 1:58AM
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robeb

"Aphids live on the leaves rather than under them. I have never seen them to infest tomatoes."

Most aphids' entire life cycle is lived out on the underside of leaves.
They most certainly do infest tomato plants.

Hard to tell from your out of focus pic, but I'm guessing aphids.
Adult whiteflies would have flown off as soon as you turned those leaves over.

There are many discussions here on GW dealing with aphid problems. Just do some searching and you'll find loads of info.

This post was edited by robeb on Thu, Aug 15, 13 at 1:27

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 1:13AM
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redrabbit(Pgh Pa)

Thanks everyone.I have read about aphid's and haven't found any that are white and all are decribed as being bigger than what I got. They do fly when you get near them and they are mostly under the leaves. I guess I'll take some to a garden supply and see if they can help. I"m thinking about trying to dust them with seven,what do you think ???

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 11:10PM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

Burpee lists SS100 as being 70 days to DTM, and DTMs are counted from the time of transplant, so I think even I could get cherry tomatoes if I started them on July 20th! (As long as I got them into their final homes at about 4 weeks, and we didn't get an early frost.)

Betsy

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 3:58PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

@ SproutingLexi

Of course I was not trying to be negative at all. I just tried to show a possible timeline. I hope your season will be long and warm and you will enjoy some tomatoes.
Good luck !

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 8:34PM
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Bets(z6A S ID)

Hi Donna,

You can get variations in the amount of red in a bicolor, it seems to depend on the amount of sunlight and lattitude, just like the "blackness" of the "so-called-blacks." Some of the ICCs will be almost amber like Sungold, and others will be nearly red. On some the bi-color will be obvious and on others it is faint.

Do a Google Image search, and you can see what I mean. I'd post the link, but lately GW won't let me link to an image search. :-(

Are these your first fruits that are more grape shaped? Sometimes the first fruits of any tomatoes are not shaped like they are later in the season, although with cherries I find that they are usually pretty uniform unless we had funky weather about the time they were blooming and setting fruit.

As for posting pictures from PB, use the html link, that's what I did for the image below. (You may want to try it in the test forum.)

Betsy

This post was edited by bets on Thu, Aug 15, 13 at 15:47

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 3:42PM
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donna_in_sask

Thanks Betsy for the reply. Here's the photo - got my teenager to help!

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 4:30PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You'll get far more helpful info over on the Growing Under Lights forum here since very few tomato growers practice this form of growing. Perhaps even the Hydroponics forum could be of more help.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing Under Lights forum

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 11:58AM
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jardinier_79(PA 6)

They're Tami G Hybrid.
Some are starting to turn and it's not as obvious on them, so I probably could pick them now. The worst ones are super green and still too small to pick and counter ripen. Hopefully you're right, Linda and time will be gracious to them.

    Bookmark     August 12, 2013 at 12:00PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

The plant might still feed them for a while, as long as the stems are live . Food comes from the roots. Iust with few leaves the plant can continue to live. Might even grow new shoots.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 11:45PM
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Only the nose knows...Strange formation on Indigo Rose...
Posted by drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a(5b/6a) August 14, 2013
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2ajsmama

Is that a nose on your tomato, or are you happy to see me?

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 10:17PM
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northernmn(3/4)

I wanted to ask "what causes that?" but I'm not sure of the direction that the answer will be coming from ? ? ?

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 10:43PM
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ffreidl

I'm surprised that cool and wet gave you sweeter tomatoes. I've always thought those were the opposite conditions for sweetness. Well, live and learn!

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 2:33PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I am not a taste expert but SWEETNESS,( beside being a relative and somewhat subjective matter ) is msotly attributed to small fruited and yellow tomatoes. OR that is what I have heard.

ALSO, sweetness is due to ripeness ant that can happen more with hot and dry conditions than the opposite. I think, somehow sunshine make a remarkable contribution to sweetness. And, of course, genetic characteristic is another factor, perhaps that OP is looking for.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 4:01PM
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dirtguy50 SW MO z6a(6a)

Good information everyone. I will take her both and see which ones she prefers. Fortunately I have had plenty of ripe one for her as well. Thanks so much for being so helpful around here. Sure is a great thing!

    Bookmark     August 12, 2013 at 7:18PM
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SproutingLexi(9b)

those look great. Deep fryer sure helps!

To those who are willing to experiment, there is a great Latvian recipe for pickled tomatoes + onions in a pickle juice jello. Essentially your marinade is made to jelly up in the jar if you keep it in the fridge. It is quite tangy as Latvians are quite vinegar-crazy, but who knows, you may enjoy it. Since a Latvian recipe can be quite difficult to find in English, look for a Russian one, there should be plenty online in English.

    Bookmark     August 13, 2013 at 9:42PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Could you be more specific in your question please, narrow it's focus to specific points?

It would take hours and pages of information to even try to answer your question as posed. It is simply far too broad.

A simple answer is that you cannot grow tomatoes without N-P-K as well as various minerals and micro-nutrients. The effect of supplying them would all depend on the amounts used, the form they were administered in and the time of application, as well as the method of application.

Na (sodium) has a minimal role.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 12, 2013 at 11:22PM
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