16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Dave, do you do anything with feeding the tomatoes when they start to blush? I like to pick them before the other critters want them for lunch. Thanks neighbor!

No my feeding is primarily steady fertigation. If any boost is needed then it is timed to right after each fruit set episode.

I put a piece of apple in the bag when tomatoes are picked early and placed in a paper bag.

That is ethylene gas ripening just as commercial growers use on a big scale. It is a rushed and artificial process. You might as well buy store tomatoes rather than grow your own.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 4:53PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Good to know that you don't have to wait for them to get full color on the vine and risk on birds, rats, squirrels and CRACKING.
I don't like it when the birds get it before I can...hahah

    Bookmark     July 26, 2013 at 3:59AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Often due to being on the plant too long, and/or brought indoors then sat too long before they were eaten. Oh, and high temperatures may contribute to the problem.

Then, too, some kinds are more susceptible to mealiness than others.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 9:58PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

They are the size of an XL egg. I thought they would be much bigger than that.

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@GreenThumb
That sound about the normal size for Roma: XL EGG !!
But then fruit size can vary, depending on the plant's health and growing conditions.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 1:27PM
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GoldEmbossed(5)

I'm having the same problem with my roma's. The plants are strong and healthy with loads of bloom, but so far the tomatoes are thumb sized. They are growing in my greenhouse to protect them from summer hail and I know it got exceedingly hot for a few days, but I would go out during the hottest part of the day and hose down the outside to bring the temp back down. I'm hoping that the first few tomatoes are just "beginners" and that they'll produce bigger later on. Fingers crossed, sigh.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 8:36PM
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dirtguy50 SW MO z6a(6a)

Thanks Dave. I wasn't sure which forum to look to. I think I checked everyone but that one. Thanks neighbor.

    Bookmark     July 21, 2013 at 10:49PM
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spacetogrow(4 MN)

Many of my juicier tomatoes get processed along with the firmer ones. I find that freezing them, then thawing, allows a lot of the juice to separate out, so much of it can be poured off quickly instead of cooked down slowly.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 6:26PM
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thebutcher(6b (Philadelphia area))

Just got back in this photo there are 2 F1's and a "4th of July" that started to blush. I took this 4th off 2 days ago when it glowed from the others, and the middle ramapo I took off yesterday before I left and the other one I think a few days before but unsure when it blushed.

I am afraid to leave them on the vine because of so many birds in my yard. Also to note they were grown in identicle 20 Galon Fabric containers with 5-1-1 and using MG tomato foord (1.5lbs water soluble).

Also to note the middle F1 Ramapo showed some cracking on the top. I also watered them 2x a day during the heatwave last week.

Thanks again all,

- Mr Beno

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 2:39PM
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labradors_gw

They look really delicious!

Let us know how they taste when you finally eat a ripe one (grin).

Linda

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 3:05PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

No I don't wear protective clothing, just my normal jeans, shirt and shoes. But I note the wind direction so it isn't blowing on me and try to spray on non-windy days so the mist isn't blown around all over.

Please note in Toxicological Section that these studies were done with 97% pure Chlorothalonil not the 29% in the available sprays and were done on rats and rabbits and dogs. Even after a full year of exposure at that high strength and regular doses the negative effects are low and inconsistent.

No evidence of adverse developmental effects in rabbit and rat studies. Except for the minor skin and/or eye irritation mentioned above.

It's your choice of course but perspective is important. Daconil has a much lower toxicity rating than most any other garden/lawn chemical available. And even organic sprays such as sulfur and copper have potential side effects too.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 10:02AM
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drew51 SE MI Z5b/6a(5b/6a)

Enough water will kill you, A few years ago in a water drinking contest a young lady died, though she did win the contest! So maybe those afraid of Daconil should also withhold water from their plants in fear of absorbing too much when eating the fruits, and the fruits do take the water up systemically, unlike Daconi, no doubt you do consume the water you spray on edible plants. Be careful!! Also don't forget your protective gear!.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 10:36AM
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cboy

If my tomatoes start turning red and it rains, I gather the tomatoes. They take in water and the skins get tough and crack. Maybe their is another solution.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:29PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Some will crack and some won't. Like above poster said, if rain is on the way gather any that are blushing. I do.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 11:42PM
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dog_wood_2010(7)

I went nuts this year and planted a Black Russian tomato. It is loaded with very squat flat green tomatoes that are taking forever to turn black (well, really dark purple). I can't wait to try them. I'm looking forward to making grilled cheese sandwiches with Virginia ham and tomatoes. Of course if they are duds, I still have my old standbys growing back there (Box Car Willie)

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 7:56PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Green tomatoes make the best fries. I remember a movie, many years ago, called , FRIED GREEN TOMATOES.
I have to try this some time.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:28PM
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sidhartha0209(KY_6a)

"...they shouldn't be as small as you say..."

Variableness in fruit size only, from large to small.

"... My plants were fairly large and productive, and semi-early as most hearts are...."

Ditto

This post was edited by sidhartha0209 on Wed, Jul 24, 13 at 4:12

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 4:11AM
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sharonrossy(Montreal 5B)

I'm growing AR for the first time and its given me fits. It was my smallest of seedlings, now it's quite large, over 6 ft, but it took a long time to set blossoms and only now starting to set fruit. I'm holding my breath. On top of that we had a storm last week and one of the stems broke. I thought it would be one of my earlier tomatoes, but its not even close.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 8:50PM
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achang89(Z6)

Well, tasting good is very subjective. I do not want to watch the plants to grow to 7' and only set 3 tomatoes. Well, the birds may get one and the rabbits get another. I can only pick the green one? lol.

No more next year.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2013 at 10:00PM
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Tomato_Tommy(6)

I currently have 2 brandwine's and both are about 5 foot tall and have at least twenty fruits set each already. The plants are still growing and I can see more flower sets coming on. We have even had a few weeks of 100+ weather and it has not affected them. I have grown them the last two years here in ID with similar results. I never even heard of them until last year when I bought a plant on a reduced sale from one of the local nurseries. It was half dead but I only paid a buck for it so I figured what the heck I will see if I can rescue it. It was labeled a pink Brandywine when I bought the original plant last year. It did great and showed promise after even only a few days after transplant. I think I ended up getting about 30 fruit from it but they were very late in the year so some I picked before the frosts started in October. I saved some of the seeds from the plant last year and did several starts this year, gave some to friends and only kept the two plants this year but next year I think I am going to do more. And I might add they were very good taste wise....can't wait for my first BLT on homemade bread this year.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 7:43PM
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labradors_gw

My guess is that it's Early Wilt and I suggest you remove all the affected leaves, along with any dead ones (and weeds growing) on the ground. I'm having the same problem with some of my tomatoes and have been going out daily and removing anything that looks diseased, being careful to disinfect my cutters with rubbing alcohol, and to not touch any "good" leaves after handling the infected ones. I'm sure you will get some other messages, and people will tell you what you can spray your plants with, if you are so inclined.

Your fruit looks great!

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 12:17PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

IMO it's either fusarium or verticillium wilt. Fairly common and most of us have had it. The bad news is that yes, it does move fairly quickly up the plant. You might be able to stop it by removing the affected foilage and spraying with a fungicide like Daconil. Sometimes it stops and sometimes it doesn't. If you can save most of the plant, the tomatoes should be ok. Like you said, they don't appear to be affected. The little tomatoes that don't appear to be growing is just normal, the plant sometimes aborts them with or without wilt. Not every blossom becomes a tomato.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 12:38PM
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fireduck(10a)

G...it is funny you wrote this post. I was thinking about this yesterday! Here in Mexican country...there is plenty of Mexican food recipes. Many people eat pico de gallo...and call it salsa. It is a simple blend of tomato, onion, cilantro, peppers, salt and pepper.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:42AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Salsa recipes from all over GardenWeb linked below. Most are from the Harvest forum.

Plus check out the Recipe Exchange forum and all the Cooking forums over on the Home side of GardenWeb.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Salsa recipes

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 11:27AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Ironic you want them to go to 5 feet but topped off perfectly good 6 footers . Still grow time left ,have you fert them ?

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 2:31AM
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fireduck(10a)

A...isn't it funny how sometimes they just stop growing. I am not sure what to tell you. If you have 5-6 footers...I would say you are doing something right. Keep us posted...

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:47AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Is this the old heirloom Beefsteak variety aka Red Ponderosa or Crimson Cushion or one of the many other varieties called beefsteaks? Now days it is more of a type label than an actual variety name.

Either way, glad you enjoyed it. :)

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2013 at 1:39PM
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lisound

Hi Dave,
It's an heirloom but not sure about those 2. With all the crazy weather we've had in the NE, I have beefsteaks of all sizes on this plant from golf ball up to grapefruit.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2013 at 2:39PM
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njitgrad

I never really considered this but what is the scientific reason that causes tomatoes to split from excess watering? Your Average Joe would tend to think that lack of watering and intense heat would cause such an effect, not the opposite.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2013 at 1:55PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

The skin starts toughening to retard water loss, then the sudden influx of a lot of rain swells the wet tissue beyond the ability of the skin to keep it contained.

Think of the skin as Bruce Banner's shirt, the fruit as him, and the rain make Hulk mad...

    Bookmark     July 23, 2013 at 2:32PM
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