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"thinner skinned than BFT"
That sounds like something physical that can be gauged. I've noticed CP to have a very delicate skin, more like a berry than most tomatoes.
I agree with Seysonn's summary on physical attributes' priority and though I'm sure those who've grown them over time may develop a taste distinction, if the claimed distinction isn't easily perceptible to most and can't be can't be explained and reproduced all the time, for me it goes in the same file as miracle fertilizers and dubious pedigrees.
The original post seemed to apply to the fruit, but maybe the thread is changing; if we plant seeds as an question, is the foliage really too close to call too, as I don't think there is a genetic reason for that. I like mustgarden's observation about the vine length ... sounds encouraging to those of us who save seeds from the market in a special surprises for good fruits we've had the good luck to purchase.
PC
Hi PC,
Yes I agree . Plant's physical attributes, growth habit might tell more than the fruits. Though BFT's fruit shape is described as "fattish round". I thinks CP fruits are not that round and can be oblate and not quite round.
Tatiana say BFT plant grows about 4 ft. tall which seems to be shorter and less vigorous than Cherokee Purple.
So there it goes : My B FT, CP , Black Cherry, Arbuznyi and JBT are growing under light. So 3 Russians vs 2 Americans. It is going to be a tough competition in dark colored category : call it Black, Brown, Purple, Chocolate Brown, Coffee Brown,..
I choose my tomatoes based on a lot reviews not just from a single person or a seeds seller. The next stage is to try them out. This way I identify the varieties that "I" like and "THEY" do well in "MY" garden. Way to go.
Seysonn
Black From Tula
The fruits look quite round.
Cherokee Purple.
The fruits are not round .
realmanpwns I did. It's the link at the bottom of my original pos
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That is not a serious problem, I think. Just do as Dave told you already.
Seysonn
Sorry Zackey, I'm not reading things well today! It was me who didn't read the original post enough to know he did not want suggestions of cages but instructions on how to build. Do look up Texas tomato cages though. I have had mine I think close to 10 years.
Ok THAT I can relate to. Then the answer isn't in tomato variety but to create an artificial environment that will let you grow tomatoes there in the summer.
I can do it here in January and February because I have greenhouses where i can control the environment. Same goes for Hudson in Wyoming. You need to redirect that stubborn energy and create a place where you can control the environment, keep the temperature and the humidity down while still providing adequate sun or artificial light. So if not a GH then something like an enclosed lanai or sun porch with air conditioning.
But outside in the open air in a Miami summer ain't going to cut it no matter how stubborn you are. You can't force Miami weather to fit the needs of tomato plants or to your experiences when you were gardening in the north. It is just a waste of time, energy, and stubborness.
Dave
That makes sense. If soil warming isn't the highest priority, but blocking light to weeds is, black plastic is what you want. If soil warming is the highest priority, then one is better off with clear plastic. Both will help with moisture retention.
Too much watering and probably lack of nitrogen result in yellow foliage. Seedlings need to get thirsty between watering. I water mine about every 5 days or so. And I fertilize at about 1/3 strength wit MG blue water soluble (24-8-- 16). I have never used fish emulsion. So I cannot comment on that.
Seysonn
Here you go:
Brokenbar Dried tomatoes discussion It is the one always linked to whenever this question comes up.
Let us settle at ~ nominal 20 gallons; Hehe.
Deeby said::
It took about 1 1/2, 2 cubic foot bags of potting mix to fill it.
1.5 ( 2 c.f) = 3 cf >>> -3x 7.5 x 0.83 = 18.7 dry gallons
Also Beeby said:
I actually gave the pot away
What ???
Deeby, .. you've got to find that pot and measure it accurately LOL
Seysonn
It's not supposed to be one ultimate tomato. I was asking which tomato fulfills each of those descriptions from your experience. For example, last year I'd say my Black Plum had the best flavor and the most productive, as opposed to my beefsteak (not sure which one it was), which probably only had four or five total and I didn't really like the taste. If I grew more I'd have more on the list.
<I was asking which tomato fulfills each of those descriptions from your experience.>
That's why I linked some of the previous discussions above. You'll find many discussions for each of your categories with the search and each has lots of suggestions/opinions. It is a frequent question.
Dave
Gary Millwood, of Louisville, Pike County, KY, the late Kentucky heirloom Mater Man expert had this to say:
Seeds of [Claude Brown Yellow Giant] tomato were given to Bill Best more than twenty years ago by Claude Brown of Pike County, Kentucky. He had worked on improving it for decades. An excellent tasting large, deep-yellow, tomato.
See pictures of it here:
and the place that is continuing Gary Millwood's seed collection after one change of hands:
which says it is a huge tomato and has an acidic taste like a red tomato.
And note there are two similar, if not identical, strains/names of this tomato as it was distributed earlier as "Brown's Yellow Giant" by Donald Sparks who received them by the late 1980's, but since you have the Claude version, an assumption is that yours is derived via Sustainable Mountain Agricultural Center, Inc. where Bill Best of Berea, KY, is on the Board, and who is a tomato heirloom enthusiast who possibly received them earlier, also directly from Claude Brown at this website where local Appalachian heirloom preservationists formed this seed saving organization:
Sustainable Mountain Agricultural Center, Inc.
They characterize it as having an excellent flavor and which can weigh over 3 pounds.
Here is Gary Millwood, Bill Best, and Maria Stenger (the first to receive and continue many of Gary Millwood's seeds) in an Appalachian swap (scroll to first and last picture):
What a fine tomato you can look forward to growing!
PC
Hi Grubby. The three plants won't be cramped, they'll have about 15 gallons each and theoretically unlimited headroom; we just don't need any more than what 3 plants will produce, so I'll be using the rest of my (limited) garden space for other veggies.
And thanks to everyone who has contributed!