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Today (Dec 11th) I mailed seeds to:
* crystalline_ca
* kristel
* redthreaddiy
PLEASE let me know when your seeds arrive so I can update my records. Thanks....Heather
Note - We have reached the upper limit of this thread. I've started a new thread to continue to post updates. Here's the new link.
Here is a link that might be useful: 5th Annual Tomato & Pepper Seed Exchange Part Two
This post was edited by hmacdona on Tue, Dec 11, 12 at 21:21
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leaf miner, a tiny moth that lays its eggs on the leaf and the worm burrows inside the leaf creating those "s" patterns. regular horticultural oil or soap is not effective since the worn is protected inside the leaf. if you are not oppose to incesticides, look up spinosad.
Another formula from a master gardener:
1 gallon water, 2 tbsp ivory dish soap and 1 tbsp regular cooking oil. I use this formula myself. But with all things organic, you have to repeat this and really stay on top of it/bugs, best spray twice a week.
I sprayed the soapy mixture before the weekend, and I've just looked underneath the leaves again today, and there they are. So that means another spray again today...
.... and I just know I will never stay on top of it.
So, I've begun pulling my plants. Some of them were looking past the point of no return! Very off colour, very shrivelled, and the sides of the leaves going brown now. :(
Very sad and disheartening, to say the least!
I'm a beginner gardener. Only planted 4 tomato plants before - they were such a success I thought I would be eating organic tomatoes for the rest of my life! LOL
On the crest of the wave, I planted some 8 heritage varieties, and they were just flowering and bearing fruit... JUST...
and now, I'm left with nothing!!!
My chillis and peppers are all looking really sick too!!! I feel a bit sick to see my hard work, love and dedication to all these plants (around 30) all in containers go down the drain. Perhaps my fingers are not as green as I thought!
So, what to do now?
Do I throw away all my soil and wash my containers?
Do I wait before starting again?
How do I make sure the thrips don't come straight back onto anything new that I plant?
Any advice, please.
Is there any truth to the idea that saving seeds from heirlooms grown in a particular climate will produce plants better adapted to that climate in the next generation?
It's debated - a great deal. Some swear by it but others swear there is nothing to it. IMO it might help and it sure never hurts to do it.
Dave
This is the response from Tom Wagner (Tomato Breeder extraordinaire) concerning a tomato gardener in Fairbanks Alaska who had been growing the same beefsteak variety for 25 years.
[Anytime someone keeps a variety isolated from others for an extended time, the tomato variety should be considered unique in many ways.
As a plant breeder, I have deep respect for varieties grown in a particular region for a long time. Acquired characteristics, adaptation, bottle necking of the germplasm, small mutations, elimination of the original bulk population diversity, the template of Fairbanks, Alaska growing conditions is a valid point of identity.]
Grown it for 2 years now and while it is a fairly nice early hybrid tomato I doubt I'll grow it again. Small 4-6 oz. fruit but with good production on a 5-6' what I'd call a semi-determinate plant. Good disease tolerance and tolerates early planting under cover or protection very well since it was developed primarily for market gardening.
Taste is okay, especially for an early variety. Not the greatest by any means but then few early varieties are noted for great taste.
Not to be confused with Mountain Glory.
Dave
Bingo is a 1981 Ferry Morse variety. "Characteristics: F1 hybrid, medium early, firm, large, fresh market type with uniform green immature fruit, semi-determinate. Resistance: verticillium, fusarium (races 1 and 2), and tobacco mosaic virus; a distinct cultivar. " NCSU Ferry Morse no longer lists it. It is available wholesale from Harris Moran.
Dave if you google Bingo Tomato, you will get lots of photos, articles , recommedations etc. It was quite popular a few years ago.
Need2SeeGreen - did you read Carolyn's answer on this thread? I think they have very strict rules - why I am not sure, maybe it has to do with introducing strains that might carry diseases??? Carolyn unfortunately is without a computer or I am sure she would give you all the details. I have tried to order from Seeds from Italy and they ship to the US but not to Canada and the US website also won't ship to Canada. So go figure! It's nuts!
Sharon
Tomatoes need six to eight hours of light, so be sure to put your containers in sunny locations, and if need be, move them as the sun changes position.
Here is a link that might be useful: Best Juicy Tomatoes
I'm new here so I don't know if my location is easy to determine... it's Chicago. I've grown San Marzano Redorta (seeds from Italy) for two years and have given my extra seedlings to neighbors. We've all experienced the same thing: plentiful large tomatoes that refuse to ripen (for months they just hang there green, not growing larger, but showing no color or coloring in small blotches).
Good luck with your fruit Need2SeeGreen!
I'm sure you'll get some tomatoes before the cold sets in.
There is a great guide I use which has helped me
Here is a link that might be useful: Best Juicy Tomatoes
There are many so called blue tomatoes now available, and while the taste is not all that great as reported back by many at the sites where I read, many amateur breeders, and some not so amateur are working with the original OSU ( Oregon State) P20 selection to try and get some taste in them.
One of the listings at Tradewinds looks like it could be the original P20 but isn't called that.
There are also some GMO ones around, more specifically the one from England which has had a snapdragon gene inserted to bring in the color.
Below I've linked to Tania's superb database website and on the home page if you scroll down, under special links you'll see you can search for varieties by color and then click on the individual ones to see what seed sources might be available, many with pictures and some with comments from others.
I am not a fan of anyone buying tomato seeds off e-bay, but there are a few vendors who are OK.
If tradewinds just put up their blue jay one for 2013, or even 2012, I didn't check when I was at the site, I doubt you'll get much feedback on the specific one you wanted, and there are lots of others to consider via Tania's website data base.
Carolyn
Here is a link that might be useful: Tania's webpage
Yep..... went to the webpage...... that will take some time to get through ! I was wondering about the OSU..... not Ohio huh....Thanks for all the info Carolyn.