16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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john11840(z6/CT)

This made 7 quarts of sauce and I had a dozen toms left to take to Church.

    Bookmark     September 10, 2012 at 12:01PM
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naturemitch(3/4 WI)

Must add a few shots of our tomatoes!

Left to right: Black Cherry, Snow White, Sungold, and Galina's

German Giant. Just over 1 lb., there are bigger ones on the plant:)

Dagma's Perfection

Orange Russian 117. Very happy with these!

Overall, a great season for tomatoes....even with getting the plants out at least 7-10 days into June!!

    Bookmark     September 10, 2012 at 11:42PM
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JazzyJuliebean(5)

I've been watering every day unless the soil looks obviously wet. Fertilizing never happens (since I don't know what to use), and the weather's been cold for tomatoes at night - the low this week is 34 degrees.

The plants are inside now, and the German Queen is pretty much completely dead - the tomato's the greenest part, all the leaves are wilted and/or yellow, and she's bent in half where I'd fixed a break earlier in the year. Mr. Stripey still stands a chance, though. I'm planning on using a grow light over the winter to see if I can keep her going until spring.

    Bookmark     September 10, 2012 at 9:23AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Honestly I wouldn't make the effort to try to keep it growing. Your choice of course but not only is your zone an issue for winter-growing but relatively complex conditions for indoor growing are also needed.

Add to that it is a heavily stressed plant already and has been nutrient deprived for some time apparently so is both root bound and anemic in appearance, the odds of any cuttings from it being healthy are slim to none.

Better to spend the winter months learning more about proper container growing methods rather than spending time and money on trying to salvage this one.

Dave

    Bookmark     September 10, 2012 at 7:10PM
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taras49(6)

Good news; I have no fungus or any other problems. As per some other post I'm deficient in organic material. I'll be adding some leaves, some chipped tomato plants along with some 10-10-10 fertilizer. Come spring time I'll add some more 10-10-10, some peat moss and some organic compost and should be good to go.

    Bookmark     September 9, 2012 at 7:30PM
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jonfrum(6)

I never compost tomato, potato or squash vines. The risk of disease just isn't worth the tiny amount of finished compost produced.

    Bookmark     September 10, 2012 at 5:17PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I don't know too much about it, but it's hard to get every single leaf with a fungus on it out of a garden. I usually do the best I can, and hope that the fungus won't live through the winter. I also regulary use a fungicide.

    Bookmark     September 9, 2012 at 8:46PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

CArolyn 137 ,are you serious you don't know what Pox and Flex are ? And yet to laugh about it. Well you could take a break from patting your self on the back for all the tomatoes you grew,introduced,named and gave birth to,sent seeds of ,new the parents of etc. to Google search,

*****

I know Flex as Gold Fleck, not flex.

Yes, I know Fruit Pox as well, but just couldn't connect the two to your MDiv title and since no photos were shown to illustrate that. And just b'c, I've never seen Gold Fleck nor Fruit Pox on any of the MDiv plants that I've grown.

TO me it's interesting that neither of those conditions has adequately been described as to a proven origin,but a good Gold Fleck variety is Depp's Pink Firefly, and it's remained stable for that variety, but Gold Fleck can come and go and not be heritable

So yes, at first I did LOL it, b'c Flex to me is Gold Fleck, I have several links in my faves about it.

And yes, I suppose I sometime do pat myself on the back but mainly living to the age I am and still being active on a couple of message sites trying to help people with questions. And I mean help and trying to always do it nicely.

And yes, when someone posts about a variety and it's one that I originally did introduce I often do say so, but not all the time, b'c then I can give the history of where I got it from b/c that seems to interest quite a few folks, and besides, I like to keep track of what some folks think of what I call my tomato kids.

Back in the years 2003, 04 and 05, things got nasty here at GW, anyone who was here during those years knows that, and it's one of the reasons that someone who was here at the time set up a new message site in Jan of 06 and a good number of folks switched at that time. A few come back here from time to time, myself included, but if things get nasty here again, I'm gone in a NY minute, as I have recently with a couple of other message sites. I want no part of tomato politics, no intertribal warfare between message sites, and prefer a site or two where courtesy in posting is extended to everyone.

Carolyn

    Bookmark     September 8, 2012 at 2:08PM
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woodcutter2008

Been doing this for 40+ years, and I've never run across "Pox" and "Flex" before. Learn something new every so often!

Lots of 100+ temps here in Indiana this summer, but my toms. never had anything unusual happen. Grown on 4' black plastic and watered weekly, though. Virtually no cracking until the rains came back in August.

-WC2K8

    Bookmark     September 9, 2012 at 8:10AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

SFW ?

    Bookmark     September 8, 2012 at 3:07AM
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minflick(9b/7, Boulder Creek, CA)

SFW - Simply 'Effing' Wonderful. My MIL didn't like cursing, so DH started using the acronym.

Splitting - so, most likely because my watering is inconsistent? OK, that can be worked on!

    Bookmark     September 8, 2012 at 10:54AM
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garf_gw

I kill them all anyway. I use scissors.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2012 at 1:40PM
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minflick(9b/7, Boulder Creek, CA)

Oh dear! I'd about cry if I came out to a tomato plant looking like that... I'd be breaking out the scissors, or my boot, or something to do it in. Wow.

    Bookmark     September 7, 2012 at 5:05PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I think so.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2012 at 8:29AM
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ncrealestateguy

IMO, it is probably Pythium root rot or Phytophora root rot. Blight does not cause qilting... root rot does. IMO it will not come back.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2012 at 11:22AM
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thetradition(9b)

They need direct sunlight. The "hardening off" business is talked about on the forums because most people grow tomatoes in the spring, not the fall. Only those of us in late-frost areas have that luxury, and we can be often confused by "normal" recommendations. "Hardening off" for a fall garden in Florida means providing some shade in the most brutal part of the mid-late-summer day. You should have had those sprouts growing in lots of sun about six weeks ago for a fall garden. Get them into the sun pronto. The more the better at this point as sun intensity and day length are rapidly declining. Be prepared to provide some frost-cover if you want a harvest.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 9:54PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

A ton of tomato seeds ,now thst is alot

    Bookmark     September 5, 2012 at 11:57PM
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bigpinks

Good job...looks good. Mine are just about gone but I gave away at least three or four bushels this yr of of big red, pink, black, yellow and orange tomatoes and bi-colors. I had about 18 varieties and 75 plants.About all I have now are a few on some suckers started 7-1 and Cherokee Purple in a different spot along with two cherry plants. I took tomatoes to the ladies of two diff libraries, my Dads church, some girls at the Dentist I use etc. Loved every minute of it.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 7:11PM
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puffie(6)

What is your black and orange cherry called? It's beautiful!

    Bookmark     September 5, 2012 at 4:38PM
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jolj(7b/8a)

No not on my plants, but the bottom leaves will die when the heat gets high. My plants are over 6 feet & new growth is growing horizontally with blooms & green tomatoes.
But the bottom leaves are brown & dried up.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 8:35PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

While there is no reason to leave dead branches on a plant there is also no reason to remove branches that are not dead. That holds true regardless of where they are located on the plant. The one common exception is removing any lower branches that are in contact with the ground.

Do branches below a ripened cluster automatically die? No.

Dave

    Bookmark     September 5, 2012 at 2:27PM
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naturemitch(3/4 WI)

Thanks for the tip Sharon. I have a number of my favorite sources and would certainly stay away from iffy new sources. I appreciate the info...I still plan on getting some of those seeds!

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 10:18PM
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suncitylinda

I guess I just found some of the few, good reviews, here, within the last two years as that is what I was remembering I think, and wny I ordered from the site to begin with.
I am sorry to hear of any small farmer / seed producer that is not getting good reviews. Its a tough way to make a living. But, not sorry enough to order from them again in the near future....

    Bookmark     September 5, 2012 at 1:36PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I think shading in the afternoon helps a lot as long as they get at least 6 to 8 hours.

I have been here since 1979.I have huge, 80'tall or more, oak trees on the west side and they shade mine in the afternoon. They get full morning sun and the plants closest to the west side do better.

Over the years, as the trees have grown, the toms have steadily improved. I have very little sun scalding any more. Back in the 80's I had a lot of sun scald.

Another thing that I changed a few years ago, I started planting the rows east to west instead of north to south so that they would shade each other and saw an instant improvement on everything in my garden. It is very hot and humid here, especially in the afternoon.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 1:35PM
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jolj(7b/8a)

My tomatoes get from sunrise til 4 pm, when the trees on the next lot shades them.
I know a man in his 60's that plant his tomatoes near a oak tree, so he could work in the evening shade, his tomatoes did fine on 5 hours of sun.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 8:57PM
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Amisoup(8B)

BT is the best. I don't think I would have had one plant after the Spring because of those little brats. Spray it on the veggies only, and before you see a mad breakout, and you should be fine I think!

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 2:13PM
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jolj(7b/8a)

You can look for waste to help find the worm & pick it off.
The moth comes out in Spring in S.C., then lays eggs on tomato plants. The worm eats his fill in a few days & falls to the soil below , then digs in. We are blessed with a long growing here & the worm become a moth & lays eggs again in July. So I get two crops of THW, but I only got 6 worms this year. Mostly because I hand picked them, tilled in the fall to kill most of the worms in Pupae form & rotate my crops.
The wasps (2 kinds) help a lot.
Trap plants help also.

Here is a link that might be useful: Kill Tomato Horn Worm

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 8:49PM
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Ravy_Gravy

here is the other pic

    Bookmark     September 4, 2012 at 2:26PM
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