16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Lucky you. Mine never grow that tall. I've been trying for 3 years. For a plant that is supposed to be easy to grow, and an old tyme NE tomato, I always seem to have an issue with it. Love the taste though, which is why I keep trying.

    Bookmark     August 31, 2012 at 10:19AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Does that mean they aren't standards now, but rather hybrids?

Not at all. Why would it? Look at all the different Roma's out there. In addition to Rutgers there are sub-species, stabilized selections, of many different stabilized varieties. There are also many different sub-species of classic OP's including Brandywine which has 8 or more sub-species.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 31, 2012 at 10:47AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

If you puchased these seeds,the seeds remaining in the pack will be viable for many years if stored proper.

If you save seeds from the toms you grew they may not grow out to the same plants you have now .But still are viable.

VIABLE means "(of a seed or spore) Able to germinate."

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 8:47PM
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michelliot(z7 ny)

I really don't have the room to experiment, just hoping for an identical harvest as this year. Maybe one of the nurseries will have them again next year.

Carolyn, you mentioned the aroma of the plant; I think the mosquitoes are attracted to them as well. When I'm picking these babies, I'm getting swarmed by the little beggers. Very uncomfortable. Another home in the neighborhood gets visited by my wife doing homecare and when she works with her patients outside the same thing happens to her. There's a sungold plant near her as well.

They are tasty though. (the tomatoes that is)

Speak to ya,
elliot

    Bookmark     August 31, 2012 at 10:19AM
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hcoon(5a)

LOL! Love it.

Many of my San Marzanos look like that too!! This is my first year growing them, so I thought that was normal.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 8:31PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Hi hcoon,
It was my first year too. They almost look like they grew through some chicken wire fencing. They are weird, but cute! haha

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 9:06PM
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taras49(6)

Thanks, on another post I've gotten a lot of good advice about the fertilizer and compost that I'll be adding next season

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 10:44AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Were these grow in a container ? what size? what kind of plant ? Soil ?

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 8:49PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Is it good? Well it won't hurt anything but it isn't the way it is intended to be used and it will increase the leach-out rate.

Granular organic fertilizers will only work in containers if there is something in there besides a sterile potting mix to provide the needed bacteria for it to work. Organic fertilizers work well for in ground plants because of all the natural soil food web in the dirt but in containers, which need to be filled with a well draining potting mix rather than dirt, there is nothing to convert it to a usable form by the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 7:51PM
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coconut_head(5b)

Doesn't look like Blight to me, Usually yellow leaves with brown edges means water stress. Also Later in the season I think some leaf branches will just die off naturally, especially near the bottom of the plant.

I see no mulch and weed competition, so I would say water stress + the age of the plant. Clip off the yellow and dying leaves, Add some mulch and see if that helps.

For a home fungal spray, Add the following to a gallon of water. 2 Tbl Spoons Baking Soda, 2 Table Spoons Veg Oil, Few drops of Dishsoap. Spray on the tops and bottoms of the leaves and the stems of the plants.

CH

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 3:56PM
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readheads(6)

I didn't mulch this year, I suspect nutrient issues, used micronutrient solution but was not very accurate/consistent in its use. Don't want to spray Daconil all the time (it rubs me the wrong way). Thinking of removing the top 2 inches of soil at the end of season and next year using thick landscaping fabric and mulch to protect the leaves from splach infestation from the soil. I need to test my soil.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2012 at 5:01PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Actually I have one SWC made from 5 gallon buckets. SWC is really a misnomer because I had to fill that every day also. It would drink the 1.5 gal res. dry every day. I had BER on that too.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2012 at 1:32PM
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margie_d(3)

they are in the ground about 40 plants so it is a farly big patch, I am wtering morning and evening our temp here today was 35with a hot drying wind , maybe rain tonight but I diden't wait to find out

    Bookmark     August 29, 2012 at 9:38PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Nothing needs to be trimmed off. Read the FAQ here and through all the discussions about pruning. There is really no such thing as 'suckers'. They are lateral branches and they do produce fruit.

The claim that you must remove what are called suckers is old way-outdated wives tales spread by folks who don't understand how tomatoes grow.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 25, 2012 at 6:13PM
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coconut_head(5b)

Also, the things you are calling branches are leaf stems. You do not want to trim these off unless they are on the bottom of a mature plant. This is what the plant uses to collect energy from the sun. They are pretty good to keep. The more energy the plant can collect and use from the sun, the more energy it can put into making new plant parts, which if all else is good, could be more tomatoes.

CH

    Bookmark     August 29, 2012 at 3:41PM
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litchfieldgardener

Keep in mind that tomatoes are an annual plant. Their only mission in life is to produce seeds (i.e., fruit). Once that's done, they begin to die. These plants look fine for late summer. Nobody grows tomatoes for beautiful foliage (although they can look pretty gorgeous in late spring). It's Mother Nature's little plan, like it or not.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2012 at 3:33PM
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coconut_head(5b)

You could knock back that fungal infection pretty easy, I'd say they have some time left to make you more fruit.

I have been keeping late blight at bay with a homeade spray. In one gallon of water, mix 2 TBL spoons of Baking Soda and 2 TBL Spoons of any Veg or olive oil, and add a few drops of dish soap. Mix well and spray on your plants.

CH

    Bookmark     August 29, 2012 at 3:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Link below is to a number of past and current discussions on the same issue and will explain the causes. Just scroll down to all the ones with blue frames.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: No fruit, no tomatoes on plant

    Bookmark     August 29, 2012 at 1:28PM
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junktruck

i doubt changing the dirt will do any good / you need to start spraying early / start spraying when u plant you want to prevent not try to cure the fungus / mulch helps alot too

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 11:24AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Spray if it's a disease. But ....

Other than OP's guess at the underlying problem, no diagnosis has been made. Cultural problems are more common than disease.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 11:39PM
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Yaeli

Hi guys, I thought you might like an update on the effects of the milk I tried -- I only put it around my 3 puniest tomato plants and they are now rockin' the socks off the other four. They are the sturdiest now and are the only ones that are flowering. I think it is still too hot for them to set fruit but it seems that the milk did those tomatoes good!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 12:29PM
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sharonrossy(Montreal 5B)

Wow,must be the calcium! Congrats keep us posted!

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 9:05PM
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bigpinks

I ended up with three diff bi-colors...Mr Stripey, Va Sweet and Hillbilly and they did well collectively. But I lost track of which was which. I weighed the biggest at 37 ounces.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 1:12PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Since no one has said it, I will.LOL

Here's the reason that Mr Stripey appars at almosty all the big box strores as well as commercial nurseries.

Wayne Hilton, who used to own TT and that whole stable of companies now owned by Jung's, found it in GA and sent seeds to Seeds by Design in CA, a wholesale place he was dealing with at the time.

Since the folks there didn't know that there already was a variety called Mr. Stripey, aka Tigerella as bred in England by the Glasshouse Res Insti, they called it Mr. Stripey, again, not knowing that the real Tigerella had also been called Mr. Stripey.

And SBD send out a commercial list to many many commercial growers of heirloom varieties in the US, and that's how it got spread around.

This meaning that since then I and others have had to distinguish between the two, the real Tigerella being a small red with gold jagged stripes and not a bicolor, which splits with the AM dew and has a very aggressive taste vs the gold/red large bicolor.

Yes, I've grown Mr. Stripey the bicolor and it would be about at the bottom of my list of gold/red bicolors based on production AND taste and I do know that many others feel the same way.

With over about 200 named gold/red bicolors I think there are many others that are more worthy.

Again, just me wee opinion.LOL

Carolyn

    Bookmark     August 28, 2012 at 4:04PM
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jen1996

When I first posted I assumed My tomatoes had early blight but today I noticed a couple plants has several leaves with light freckly looking spots.
Is that consistent with early blight or might there be a separate problem.
Here are some pics.
Again overall the plants seem healthy and tomatos so far not effected.

Thanks

    Bookmark     August 27, 2012 at 2:46PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Need pictures, please.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2012 at 2:19AM
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enmnm

Up close pic.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2012 at 7:45AM
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