16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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Suzan Qsous

Oh I'm not looking for middle eastern varieties, I'm looking for something different to try. I have a relative in the states who would be able to forward any seeds I purchase to me.

From what I read about Sioux, it looks like the thing I'm looking for. I'm also wondering if I go for partial shade or grow in a container that I would move in when the sun gets too hot would I have a better chance at growing more varieties?

    Bookmark     August 3, 2012 at 10:34AM
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jll0306(9/ Sunset 18/High Desert)

It, like all the tomatoes is happier if you can grow it in a spot that gets morning sun and afternoon, but I threw a light shade cloth on it in the REALLY hot stretch.

If you decide to grow in a container, you have the advantage of being able to blend a moisture retaining soiless potting mix which will help to avoid any soil-born disease issues. And maybe the dog won't get the cage!

What else do you grow there?

Jan

    Bookmark     August 3, 2012 at 12:36PM
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brewyc

thanks again Carolyn, I will take your advice, in the kitchen not the window sill, and you are right as the taste I had one that had a "blush" on it and it was bland tasting!The good news, my Ramapo's are 6 feet tall and loaded with fruit all green, but my fingers are crossed.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2012 at 6:11AM
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raisemybeds(SouthernCT)

I have a Cherokee Green fruit ripening up nicely in a paper bag right now. It fell from the plant while utterly unripe - completely hard and green - while I was harvesting the ripe ones. I hate it when that happens! Seems to work OK although I might rethink my strategy due to Carolyn's comments about the bag method.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 11:44PM
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emcd124(5)

@Capoman: A black light?! that is AWESOME. Does it work for any other critters? I'm having a heck of a time finding the bean leaf beetles on my bean plants. it would be dreamy if they were also day-glo

Thanks!

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 1:12PM
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4hleader(5)

I tried the black light last night - extension cord, CFL black light in a shop light housing - and the hornworms did show up clearly against the tomato foliage. But they weren't like Elvis on black velvet type of glow-in-the-dark. At least one moth glowed too.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 11:23PM
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bigpinks

I am embarassed to admit that for the second yr in a row I dont know which plants are which. Not gonna happen next yr. Just wanted to say that I have the most and biggest red yellows ever for me. I planted 6 Mr Stripeys, 2 Va Sweets and 4 Hillbillys. I have the table covered with these tomatoes. I weighed the biggest and it tipped the scales at 37 ounces. I like the taste a lot.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 6:04PM
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sharonrossy(Montreal 5B)

My gold medals just started and I'm worried they won't have time to grow and ripen. I don't know why it took them so long to have fruit. I planted them 2 nd week in June. All my other tomatoes have gone bonkers. I'm growing Mr. Stripey for the first time. I have to be aggressive with pruning 'cause it's also gone nuts. Nothing is ripe yet.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 9:26PM
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capoman(5a)

dickiefickle, If you look around these forums you will see many people having issues with earthtainers with water retention symptoms. They may have holes to drain, but they also have a wicking system. If you have a soil that is too water retentive and wicks up too much water, you'll have problems. Using an earthtainer isn't foolproof and doesn't preclude you from building a well drained soil to go in it.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 4:53PM
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capoman(5a)

About peat, There is a difference between peat-based soils, and bark based soils with peat in them. Peat based soils mean the majority of the medium is peat. I have no problem with peat - as a small component of a mix, and in fact has a crucial function of water retention control in a bark based soil such as 5:1:1. But when the majority of the mix is peat, it holds to much water (or none at all - hydrophobic). That is why so many people have problems with peat dominant soils.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 5:00PM
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babcia(6B)

Thanks so much. Your answer makes a lot of sense. We have had extensive dryness in the area. I do water, but not to excess.

I tried "googling" the problem and they kept referring to wilt, root rot, and fungus. I knew that wasn't the reason.

My tomatillos aren't producing either. I'm guessing it's the same answer.

I picked a bad year to try new veggies.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 12:25PM
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Masbustelo

Keep babying the plants along including the tomatillos, it will cool off and rain one of these days.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 1:39PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Given the name means "blonde girl" and that they were always yellow for me I'd bet on poor quality and/or mis-labeled seeds.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 12:40PM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

suncitylinda,in the pic the fruit is rotted on the side not the bottom leading me to believe sunscald

you only got 2 fruit ? sounds like it was too hot to bloom and set flowers/fruit

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 2:02AM
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noinwi

"Either they have these ulcer-looking sores, or they only developed half a tomato, with ulcer-looking black bottoms."

Dickie, I believe Suncitylinda was indeed addressing one of the OP's concerns.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2012 at 10:55AM
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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

Linked below is a pic of a tomato hornworm someone brought to the event. I thought it was rather large and we could watch as it chewed the leaf down. That is a dime & a quarter in the pic.

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato Hornworm pic

    Bookmark     August 1, 2012 at 10:23PM
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tedposey

Katkeeper, BER is not transmitted from one tomato to another nor one plant to another so It makes little difference to remove the affected ones. If less than half to tomato is dark and the rest red, cut off the bad part and eat the rest. If 1/2 or more is dark pull them off so the nutrients that would have gone into them will go into the remaining ones. Maybe. Lol

    Bookmark     July 31, 2012 at 2:39PM
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winnjoe(MTL)

Black Cherry was the first to give me a ripe tomato this year. Maybe it was the wait, but they were great! I grew Black Plum a few years in a row in Winnipeg, where they got all the sun they could want, and they were invariably mealy.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2012 at 9:48PM
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capoman(5a)

Little trick to find them. They glow under blacklights. If you can get a portable blacklight, you can find them much easier. Also, if you have good hearing, you can hear them munch as they are quite loud when eating.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2012 at 9:57AM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Humm, don't know were to get a black light.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2012 at 12:58PM
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dixied(z5 colorado)

Yes, very hot here in southern Colorado..average 100 degree weather the last couple months. I also grow in grow boxes in a greenhouse so even hotter in there though i have it vented and also have a fan on the hotter days. The larger tomatos dont seem to be as effected as the smaller ones.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2012 at 10:18PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I've been spitting out all of my thick Moravsky Division skins.......grown in a container in this hot NY summer.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2012 at 12:23AM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

I bet it was a VA Sweets. I had one about that size last year. I don't remember the exact weight but I know it was over 2 pounds!

    Bookmark     July 31, 2012 at 8:07AM
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ediej1209(5 N Central OH)

Granddaddy Estler routinely got 2+ pounders so it could easily be your ML.

And, guess what? I found an ML hidden back in the back of the plant under all the foliage and it's about 1/2 ripe already. We'll be eating a BLT soon!! YAY!!!!!

Edie

    Bookmark     July 31, 2012 at 1:30PM
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jeremywildcat

Interesting - I'm in Denver and the last couple of Beefmaster tomatoes I've picked have had some uneven ripening. Not quite as noticeable as the ones in your pics, but definitely different from the ones I've been picking all summer. They do seem to eventually ripen fully though, so maybe its unrelated to what you have.

    Bookmark     September 22, 2009 at 11:07AM
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jeremywildcat

Wanted to follow up on this - seems this is what I have again this year in Denver, as I'm again getting blotchy ripening tomatoes. Anyone else? Anything I can do to avoid it next year or minimize the effects this year?

    Bookmark     July 30, 2012 at 8:41PM
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robeb

I've never grown tomatoes in your neck of the woods, but what have you got to lose?

Doubt that your highs for the next few weeks will be worse than what we've gone through for the last month or so here, and many of us are still harvesting fruit. I'd give it a shot.

Remember that shading your plants can really help when needed.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2012 at 5:26PM
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