16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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luke_oh(zone 5 NE Ohio)

I can't think of a better use of a front yard. I started about 4 years ago with my orchard. I have 9 peach, 2 Japanese plum, about 10 apple, and 2 pear. The peach trees are giving us some sweet peaches right now. I lost 3 peach trees due to the very wet spring last year. I also have about 35 blueberries. If you havn't already done so, check out the Fruit and Orchard Forum. lots of good info. It's been a real learning experience. luke

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 2:36PM
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GardeningRook13(6a)

Hey, I'm from New London, OH. I have 12 plants and have harvested 23 tomatoes. That included the 4 Green Zebra which I am not a fan of yet, to me they lack flavor. The rest have been Early Girl, Pink Girl(my fav so far), and Golden Sundburst I think is what its called.. its seeds came from a multi seed pack so its my best guess just from looking at photos online. I have also had 8 or more Yellow Pear(cherry) tomatoes. At the end of this week I should finally have my first ripe Big Rainbow. We have been watering the garden almost everyday because of the lack of rain. Today I picked one more Pink Girl but it has a bite taken out of it almost perfectly round and I am not sure from what. Laying just underneth it was a green tomato that had been knocked off and shredded by something with sharp teeth...my dad thinks it was a raccoon. It better back off or its going to regret messing with my garden.

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 11:38PM
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tedposey

The moth that produces this worm is big and beautiful. they fly mostly at twilight and maybe after dark. Some people pick thes caterpillars off their tomatos and put them on some other plant which they may eat to reach maturity. I don't know what other plants they can eat except tobacco. Lol

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 3:35PM
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garf_gw

If you're going to put them on another plant, make it poison ivy.

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 5:33PM
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sneezer2(5)

I don't think so. I have had the same problem in the past.
Your plants will grow out the top and then break over the
edge. It looks ugly but won't hurt them much. You can support
some of them with twine. Consider extending your cages to 7'
by adding another 2' section of mesh

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 3:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

It is perfectly normal for indeterminate plants to outgrow their cages - unless you use 10-12 foot tall cages. However topping them is not a standard practice since all that future production is lost.

The branches just drape back down the outside and keep right on growing and producing.

If you only want plants that will remain contained within a 5' cage then grow determinate varieties.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 5:02PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Your plants look great! If you search 'fertilizing' here you'll find all sorts of discussions about it for more info. But basically it boils down to regular application of the fertilizer of choice. How often varies and depends on type and amounts used. Personally I use a 6 week cycle since the plants grow in approximately 6 week cycles of growth-bloom-ripen-growth.

Given the appearance of your plants I'd just continue with the plan you have been using. I would however, strongly suggest mulching those plants with a good layer of one of the recommended mulching materials often discussed here.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 11:45AM
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djbaker77

I'm growing a variety called Zaryanka Sunrise, which is described as "semi-determinate" by the seed company that I bought seeds from. It does have a bush type growth habit, though is slightly bigger than my other determinates. It's loaded with green fruit of all different sizes, but nothing ripe yet, so I cannot comment on taste.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 5:58PM
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tomncath(St Pete Z10a Heat 10)

These 4-5' varieties have been around for years, I'm Zone 10 and for me Husky Cherry Red has been a remarkable tomato :

Husky Red
Husky Cherry Red
Better Bush
Better Bush Improved

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 10:08AM
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ngrrsn(7)

I have read that thick skins can be due to variety (crack resistant types, for example), too little water, or excessive heat. I am not sure where you live, but given the terrible heat waves this year, I am guessing too little water or especially excessive heat.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 10:31AM
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hcoon(5a)

I have the opposite impression. My sungold and black cherry skins seem less tough than last year...

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 9:36AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Looks like a curly top disease, then too much watering ,then Late Blight , check and match up from this link

Here is a link that might be useful: tom disease ID

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 7:56PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I don't have much experience with disease and insects, but the really dark plant looks over fertilized, and the very light green one looks under nourished.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 9:57PM
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Lem1

That's the problem with the white boxes. They have a wooden bottom and the roots can't go any further than that. That's why I designed next years model which is the one with the Smart pots, in the other photos.. I agree with the deep watering with my new design. The white boxes really touchy to water especially since I had to heavy a mix in a container with a bottom.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:57PM
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Lem1

At Robby. Thanks for the compliment on the tomatoes. They look pretty good in this picture. But trust me they have had a lot of issues!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 7:07PM
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ncrealestateguy

Fran, beautiful onions!
I have found that one of the best ways to slow disease and insects is to not have any weeds in the garden. I got very busy with work this Spring, and the weeds in my garden are the worst they have ever been. And so is the disease and the insects, and the quality of my tomatoes.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 4:22PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

That is a great looking garden. Your onions are awesome.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:39PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

I checked Tania's T base and did a general Google search and also checked the 2012 SSE annual Yearbook with no results.

To me it sounds like something that someone named,possibly from an accidental cross and I understand the words black and tie dye ( Brad Gate's several tie dyes but not one with Barbado that I know of)) but barbado makes not much sense to me at all.

I just checked Brad's website and he offers nothing named as you spelled it, not even close, no barbado anything. ( Smile)

Where did you buy the plant and what kind of tag was with it, as in one that was preprinted or one that just had writing on it that some had done?

And if no one recognizes it can you go back to the place where you bought and ask more about it?

Carolyn

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:13PM
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timmy1 pics2nd greenhouse
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suncitylinda

Hey timmy, it says pics, as in PLURAL. Wheres the rest? LOve your pictures, please post more when time.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 12:56AM
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star_stuff(Greensboro NC 7a)

I second that!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 2:23PM
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LillardsFord(7)

Hopefullly this picture will work. :)

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 9:10AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

IMO they look under fed, and possibly not getting enough sunlight. Plants get spindly reaching for light. Don't be afraid to use the fertilizer. Frankly, I under fertilized my plants for years for fear of over fertilizing. After I saw a youtube video showing how much fertilizer goes into those swc things, I significantly increased my application rate, and had very good results.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 1:19PM
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suncitylinda

OK, so, white stuff is from spray, that leaves what is likely some leaf fungus disease and nutritional issue. Spray with a fungicide and I would give them a dose of balanced liquid fert. Fish is generally mostly all N.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 12:53AM
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dons916(9)

It looks like too much water,But being a tom. Gardner you know better,So to much of any one thing is not good. I would use a soap spray and take notes. If this happens again u would know.I really fell for you.I have redwood trees dieing and I can't get a answer either.It is tough to diagnose with out see it first hand.Thats gardening and u will figure it out.Good luck.
Don in Ca.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 10:42AM
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SimpleWandering

Sorry about that, hopefully it didn't get to the roots

Here is a link that might be useful: Organic Vegetable Garden

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 10:12AM
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ngrrsn(7)

The PNW has lots of micro climates. Even a couple of miles can make a big difference. Here in Bellingham, north of Seattle, my tomatoes are just sad. While they have nice dark green leaves, and the determinates are bushy, they are all about 1/2 size, and only a few yellow blossoms. Just too cold and wet! A friend of mine between Lynden and Sumas has wonderful tomatoes; some are the same types as mine. I tried a number of cool and short season tomatoes, but they just aren't happy this year.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 2:09PM
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amy_of_pnw

I'm still eating just the early ones. On a bright note my Brandywine is just loaded this year. If I get any ripe fruit and they are true to taste I will save the seeds. I rarely plant Brandywine since I have never had more than 3-6 tomatoes per plant. There must be a couple dozen or more on this plant, amazing.

Speaking of micro climates I have two garden plots. My house is at 800 feet elevation and everything there is always later. I have a community garden plot in the valley with what seems a much faster kick start every season. I grow most of my tomatoes there.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 4:53AM
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