16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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ngrrsn(7)

I have read that thick skins can be due to variety (crack resistant types, for example), too little water, or excessive heat. I am not sure where you live, but given the terrible heat waves this year, I am guessing too little water or especially excessive heat.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 10:31AM
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hcoon(5a)

I have the opposite impression. My sungold and black cherry skins seem less tough than last year...

    Bookmark     July 28, 2012 at 9:36AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

Looks like a curly top disease, then too much watering ,then Late Blight , check and match up from this link

Here is a link that might be useful: tom disease ID

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 7:56PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I don't have much experience with disease and insects, but the really dark plant looks over fertilized, and the very light green one looks under nourished.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 9:57PM
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Lem1

That's the problem with the white boxes. They have a wooden bottom and the roots can't go any further than that. That's why I designed next years model which is the one with the Smart pots, in the other photos.. I agree with the deep watering with my new design. The white boxes really touchy to water especially since I had to heavy a mix in a container with a bottom.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:57PM
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Lem1

At Robby. Thanks for the compliment on the tomatoes. They look pretty good in this picture. But trust me they have had a lot of issues!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 7:07PM
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ncrealestateguy

Fran, beautiful onions!
I have found that one of the best ways to slow disease and insects is to not have any weeds in the garden. I got very busy with work this Spring, and the weeds in my garden are the worst they have ever been. And so is the disease and the insects, and the quality of my tomatoes.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 4:22PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

That is a great looking garden. Your onions are awesome.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:39PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

I checked Tania's T base and did a general Google search and also checked the 2012 SSE annual Yearbook with no results.

To me it sounds like something that someone named,possibly from an accidental cross and I understand the words black and tie dye ( Brad Gate's several tie dyes but not one with Barbado that I know of)) but barbado makes not much sense to me at all.

I just checked Brad's website and he offers nothing named as you spelled it, not even close, no barbado anything. ( Smile)

Where did you buy the plant and what kind of tag was with it, as in one that was preprinted or one that just had writing on it that some had done?

And if no one recognizes it can you go back to the place where you bought and ask more about it?

Carolyn

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 6:13PM
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timmy1 pics2nd greenhouse
Posted by timmy1(6a ri) July 25, 2012
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suncitylinda

Hey timmy, it says pics, as in PLURAL. Wheres the rest? LOve your pictures, please post more when time.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 12:56AM
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star_stuff(Greensboro NC 7a)

I second that!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 2:23PM
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LillardsFord(7)

Hopefullly this picture will work. :)

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 9:10AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

IMO they look under fed, and possibly not getting enough sunlight. Plants get spindly reaching for light. Don't be afraid to use the fertilizer. Frankly, I under fertilized my plants for years for fear of over fertilizing. After I saw a youtube video showing how much fertilizer goes into those swc things, I significantly increased my application rate, and had very good results.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 1:19PM
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suncitylinda

OK, so, white stuff is from spray, that leaves what is likely some leaf fungus disease and nutritional issue. Spray with a fungicide and I would give them a dose of balanced liquid fert. Fish is generally mostly all N.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 12:53AM
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dons916(9)

It looks like too much water,But being a tom. Gardner you know better,So to much of any one thing is not good. I would use a soap spray and take notes. If this happens again u would know.I really fell for you.I have redwood trees dieing and I can't get a answer either.It is tough to diagnose with out see it first hand.Thats gardening and u will figure it out.Good luck.
Don in Ca.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 10:42AM
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SimpleWandering

Sorry about that, hopefully it didn't get to the roots

Here is a link that might be useful: Organic Vegetable Garden

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 10:12AM
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ngrrsn(7)

The PNW has lots of micro climates. Even a couple of miles can make a big difference. Here in Bellingham, north of Seattle, my tomatoes are just sad. While they have nice dark green leaves, and the determinates are bushy, they are all about 1/2 size, and only a few yellow blossoms. Just too cold and wet! A friend of mine between Lynden and Sumas has wonderful tomatoes; some are the same types as mine. I tried a number of cool and short season tomatoes, but they just aren't happy this year.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 2:09PM
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amy_of_pnw

I'm still eating just the early ones. On a bright note my Brandywine is just loaded this year. If I get any ripe fruit and they are true to taste I will save the seeds. I rarely plant Brandywine since I have never had more than 3-6 tomatoes per plant. There must be a couple dozen or more on this plant, amazing.

Speaking of micro climates I have two garden plots. My house is at 800 feet elevation and everything there is always later. I have a community garden plot in the valley with what seems a much faster kick start every season. I grow most of my tomatoes there.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2012 at 4:53AM
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ernie85017, zn 9, phx

I got 2 tomato plants at walmaart this spring and they were labeled "tomato". I wasn't sure I wouldn't kill them, so went for it as they were cheap.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 11:25PM
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robeb

I can't understand anyone selling tomato plants just labelled Tomato, but whatever.

With all due respect...
I can't understand why anyone would buy them.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 11:37PM
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fusion_power

Malachite Box, Cherokee Green, and Green Giant are most likely to produce a crop of the varieties you have listed. This takes into account your location in TX.

Suggest you broaden your horizon. There will be a new one available next year from Sandhill named Bold Green. Get a few seed and try it.

DarJones

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 4:46PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Agree with Darrel in my zone 5 area as well and in addition to those three I think I'd add Dorothy's Green as well.

Sometime I think you should try some of the GWripe cherries and of those I suggest.

Green Doctors and/or Green Doctors Frosted
Green Zebra Cherry ( not from the variety Green Zebra)
Verde Claro

All of the above cherries are very high yielding.

Carolyn, who notes that a couple of us predicted the GW ripe fad would follow the black fad and that has happened and I couldn't be happier since I've grown one heck of a lot of GWripe varieties and love the tastes.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 6:17PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

When weather conditions are right for self pollenization usually that happens naturally, but yes, there are some who shake plants, some who use electric toothbrushes to help the pollen fall to the stigma and a few Iknow who have taken a broom to the plants and gently whaked them. But the effectiveness of those methods I think is called into question b'c there are no control plants ever used. ( wink)

But the fact is that as the bud matures to a blossom and the stigma starts to push up, it makes contact with the pollen bearing anthers usually before the blossom is even fully open.

No nectar in tomato blossoms so make some sugar water for the hummingbirds if you want to. ( smile)

Carolyn

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 6:07PM
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ngrrsn(7)

LOL! Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 6:14PM
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Nunyabiz1(7)

Because the roots are bound in those small buckets.

Plant your next ones in 20+ gallon Smart Pots with good potting mix and you have the best of both worlds.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 5:58PM
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ngrrsn(7)

You say your ground based ones have few blossoms? I had this problem a few years ago; incredible plants, healthy, robust, dark green, and BIG! But few blossoms and few tomatoes. A master gardener laughed and asked me how much I had fertilized and with what. He told me to get a soil testing kit, which I did. My NPK were all very, very high. The culprit was too much nitrogen. The tomatoes put all their effort into growing, not producing fruit. Even if using the same fertilizer product in your garden and your pots, the N could be higher in your garden soil than the pots because in your pots the N will leach out faster. Oh...and I have had tomatoes (not dwarfs or cherry) produce very well in 2 gal pots on my deck.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 6:13PM
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helenh(z6 SW MO)

The climbing cutworms come in different colors and stripes. I have a butterfly book that shows two colorations of the same type of larva; one is green one darker.

I thought the tomatoes themselves were making me sick. It went on for two or three years. I ate tomatoes anyway because it is hard to give them up but then had a rumbling abdomen. One year I noticed that I was able to eat tomatoes breakfast, lunch and dinner for a few weeks until I had worms eating them. I sprayed with Thuricide. Now I don't use any of the bacterial products. I don't really know what does it maybe it was a coincidence but I can eat tomatoes now.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 12:02PM
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ngrrsn(7)

Looks like damage from a Tomato Fruitworm. Once in the tomato, the tomato is no good....you can't "cure" the damage. Prevention is the only step, now, from spreading to other fruit. If you see a tomato with a hole in it (some up to the size of a pea), pick it and get rid of it. I am not talking about "bites" such as tomato hornworms make, but holes that look like they were drilled into (or out) of the fruit. BT, Neem, or Spinosad can be applied to the plant and fruit, and I believe they are organic approved; but read the instructions. The little worms are the color of the stem and leaves, and prefer new green fruit. Good Luck!

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 4:38PM
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