16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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lorimcp2006

I'm not an expert, so there may be some reason to go ahead and cut the stems off due to disease, etc. But most of the time I just tie the stem back up to where it was and it usually heals itself. Last week I had the same issue, and of maybe 10 I tied up, only one ended up wilting, so I cut that one off.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2012 at 12:52PM
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sue_ct(z6 CT)

Very nice and some interesting ideas, thanks for sharing! I will be back to reread your post when I am less sleepy and can take in the details more, lol!

    Bookmark     July 21, 2012 at 9:49PM
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sue_ct(z6 CT)

I like the hoops to make covering the plants easy for season extending. My raise bed is more like 8' wide, so it wouldn't really work for me, but I bet it is convenient when an early frost threatens, and I kinda of like how it looks, too. My garden is almost all tomatoes which are too tall anyway. Still, I really like how you used them, especially like the black ones, and I think it looks nice, too.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 11:39PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sounds like sun scald but that is just a guess without see them.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 9:30AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

You need moe water

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 11:29PM
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Lorri_DK(7b/8a)

OMG! My family is just staring at me, because I'm laughing so hard!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 2:05PM
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terrybull

stop laughing at GMAN your gonna give him a complex. GMAN its not that small.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 6:36PM
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terrybull

if there ok, let them be ok. ok?

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 6:27PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Doesn't look like it. I'm assuming it's the lower foilage. Just remove the bad foliage. I'd probably use the Daconil soon. My Black Cherry went in the first week in May also and I just got my first red/black ones a few days ago. It's been hot here too. Just use the Daconil and keep them watered. You should have tomatoes soon.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2012 at 8:38PM
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lexiegurl09(8 eastern NC)

Yes, it is the lower leaves. If this is not late blight, what is it? Whatever it is, it's moving at a quick pace on this one plant. I just took another 3 or 4 limbs off today (so 8 limbs in 24 hrs.) It is moving UP the plant. The interesting things to note: no stem lesions, no fruit lesions, just harvested first blushing fruit today (3 of them). I have gone 3 days without watering it (which is longer than normal) to see if it could tolerate it as I will be gone for 9 days and was trying to see if these plants could go 3 days without water. Could this just be water/drought stress? I am going to water it tonight (with an overhead sprinkler, bad I know) and see if that improves the limbs that look bad but not bad enough to pull. The small suckers starting (about 8-12" high) do not seem to be affected. So the lower limbs are affected but not the sucker limbs at the same level. I'm considering pulling this plant and just need to know if it can be saved at this point or not as I do not want it to stay in the bed if it could spread to my other plants. Thank you!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 6:02PM
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terrybull

its most likely the temps. you can do a search on blossom drop. you dont say where you live.

    Bookmark     July 19, 2012 at 8:20PM
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jayvaghela(5b)

I live at Toronto, temperature is bit higher than normal. Blossom spray will work?

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 3:33PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Late Blight only over winters on live tissue (like the potatoes themselves) not garden debris. So if it is late blight that is your answer.

If it is something else, which is far more likely, then garden debris can become an issue. It can always be well tilled in for the winter and fresh mulch applied in the spring.

Whether composting garden debris is sufficient to destroy pathogens is heavily debated and how effective it is all depends on how and how well the composting is done - active and hot or passive and cold. Lots of reading on this over on the Composting forum here since it isn't tomatoes related.

Personally I belong to the active and hot composting school and find little problem with well composted garden debris. JMO

As to digging the potatoes - nothing is gained by digging them now and long term storage would be lost. But it is basically your choice. On the off chance that you do have LB just don't sell or plan to use any of them as seed potatoes and plan to rip out any resprouts.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 1:30PM
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2ajsmama

These will be all eating potatoes, I plan on buying fresh (certified) seed potato each year.

Thanks Dave - I appreciate all the expertise you share on all the GW forums.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 3:09PM
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riceke(Z8GASnellville)

Wertach...I see you planted "Marion". I bought the seed but never planted it. Can you tell me a ;ittle about it like production, flavor, size, disease resistance? Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 9:42AM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

Marion is my grow every year tomato. I know it will produce well if nothing else does! My Dad started growing them when they were released in 1960.

He grew them every year of his life, until he couldn't garden any more. But I still planted and harvested them for him in the last 3 years of his life, he died in August 2010 at 88 years old!

They produce 6 to 8 ounce fruit, not big, so it's a two or three slicer on a sandwich. Kind of acidic, which I like.

They taste great to me fresh, frozen, and canned. They are excellent in homemade veggie soup and sauces.

I have never had many problems with disease, a few cases of BER but not very often, Zero BER this year. I have had BER on everything but Marion some years.

From Bonnie's website:

"Marion tomato was developed in the South and released in 1960 to meet the challenges that heat and humidity that create, plant diseases and cracked fruit."

Here is a link that might be useful: Bonnie

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 2:42PM
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helenh(z6 SW MO)

My question is related. I am discontinuing watering of plants that have no fruit or not many fruit. If I prune these way back, would there be a chance of them reviving if I do get rain. My thinking is fewer leaves less water loss.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 1:33PM
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Masbustelo

The reason lots of tomatoes peter out is because they run out of nutrients mid season.It's possible your plants are short on nutrients and for this reason not fruiting. More or less water won't help in this case. They probably are not setting fruit due to the current high temps. If you continue to water and not prune the healthy part (do remove dead lower leaves)they will set fruit and produce, with a little luck until early November. Try some compost tea and continuing your watering regimen. Also mulch to lower soil temps. Are you watering sufficiently that the soil in general has adequate moisture?

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 2:42PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

The ready to use is already at the correct dilution to be used and shouldn't be further watered down.

(You shouldn't water down the ready to use Daconil. The active ingredient (chlorothalonil) needs to be at 29.6% to be effective.)

Rob, we agree on not diluting the ready to use but I'd like to restate what you said above.

Daconil concentrate is 29.6% chlorothalonil but I'd like to add that that's the concentrate that DOES need to be diluted, per the label instructions.

I think some here may misinterpret what you said when you said that Daconil needs to be 29.6% in order to be effective, without saying that it's the concentrate which does need to be diluted.

Carolyn

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 12:10PM
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robeb

I see what you mean, Carolyn.
Thanks...

Rob

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 1:18PM
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2ajsmama

I'm just worried the critters are going to get them - the 2 tomatoes on it so far are outside the fence and I just had to throw out a nice BW that the turkeys got to. Oh well, plenty of blossoms on MY side of the fence!

(Though I did put in a gladiolus stem ring/stake and re-tie my baling twine to pull some big CP away from the fence a bit more after seeing the BW damage. Nothing to do about the cherries growing wild through the fence.)

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 12:21PM
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tomva(7-central virginia)

for digdirt:)It's the real deal,lol

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 12:38PM
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misselly

Thanks for your input. I wondered if the "sucker" would cause smaller fruit growth on the main plant. But since it's so well developed already, I think I will leave it. Thanks again!

    Bookmark     July 22, 2012 at 11:02AM
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mandolls(4)

If you read this forum much you will learn that there is no such thing as a "sucker". Whether you leave it on should depend on where you are located. Up here in WI I doubt if there is enough time for a new stalk to produce fruit, but if it is as tall as the main stalk then by all means leave it on.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 6:48AM
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cole_robbie(6)

There's great advice on this thread. Keep in mind that disease and growing conditions are linked. Stress from bad conditions opens the door for disease. Then people try to fight the disease, instead of the bad conditions. Human health is not much different :)

Try getting a kiddie pool or trough and setting the containers in that. Put a few inches of water in the pool, let the plants soak it up for several minutes. If you leave them for too long in too much water, the roots will rot, so pump/bail/drain the water out of the pool after the root ball has become soaked. This is basically flood & drain hydroponics. You can set up pumps and timer to do it automatically if it gets to be too much work to do by hand.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 12:47PM
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katkeeper36

Hey, I'm a relative newb here. Here's my question: From looking at the pics you can see lots of weeds in her container...which I agree is a very small pot. Also the dirt level is only like 1/2 of capacity......is it ever too late to add more soil....fill it up to the rim ( after weeding of course ).

    Bookmark     July 23, 2012 at 6:31AM
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mudman93(3)

Yep, waiting too long. When they are ripe they still stay on the vine but can be plucked off easily. Just past that stage they will fall off, but may still taste fine.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2012 at 8:54PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

For all that fall off, I have yet to get a volunteer.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2012 at 9:00PM
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