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Yes, they are small containers for the size of the plants that are in them....there are 2 Big Beef in one and one Big Boy in the other. They came with 2 plants in each pot, I wish I have taken one of the Big Beef out also. I planted the other Big Boy in my perennial bed and it's doing pretty well, doesn't get as much sun but there's not too much I can do about that, it was the only space I had and I wanted to see if my soil was good enough to start growing more tomatoes in that garden.
I will try the Florida Weave, the plants are now tied to my deck but are getting larger every day. Thank you all for the input, I really appreciate it.
Linda

Here are some pictures of the plant I was concerned about:



I've also noticed the leaves on most all of my toms are getting a leathery texture and curling a bit. This is my first time growing tomatoes so I have no idea if this is normal. These are pictures of my sweet millions and cherokee purple, they seem to be growing like weeds but I'm a bit obsessed. Thanks for any input!



Those were the sweet millions, then again on my CHerokee Purple I see the leaves getting leathery and kind of curling.




Container growing is great IMO
I am going to go with 15-20 gallon Tan colored Smart Pots next year.
Going to re-use most of my potting mix from this year, but add some pine bark fines and large vermiculite.
Then going to make a complete cover for 6-8 Dwarfs that I plan to grow.
Have 4 corners made of plastic coated steel tube then pvc connectors and pvc pipe in between to make a top.
Then make a cover of fine white screen which lets plenty of sun through but cuts down on insects by at least 90%.
Use velcro as an opening.
With the proper pots and potting mix you cant over water.

The information I obtain by Googling is that this variety is referred to both as Piccolino and Piccolo and is an F1 hybrid bred by DeRuiter seeds which I think is in the Netherlands.
I linked below to one site in the UK which ID's it as an F1 and there other references to it being an F1 hybrid via Google.
So are you saying that your daughter brought you actual fruits, in which case saving seeds from those fruits would be the F2 saved seeds and would not, when sown and grown out, give you the same fruits that she brought you.
Or are you saying that she brought you seeds of Piccolo F1 and you raised the F1 plants and now want to save seeds from those F1 fruits ?
In either case one doesn't usually save F2 seeds from hybrids b'c they won't give you back the same as the F1.
Nothing wrong with those F2 seeds, they would germinate just fine, but being F2 seeds, as I've noted, you won't get back what the true F1 plants and fruits look and taste like.
So while I could direct you to some great sites having to do with processing seeds I can't see the sense in doing that b'c this variety is F1.
This variety is also offered by many hydroponic places,as the F1, of which one is in Colorado, but I suppose the prices there are high since it's usually commercial hydroponic growers who need lots of seeds and F1 seeds are almost always higher in price than are OP ( open pollinated) seeds.
Am I making sense here, I sure hope so. ( smile)
Carolyn
Here is a link that might be useful: Piccolino/Piccolo F1 tomato seeds


Yes I have been to Hippy Hollow , but not since they made it into a park and started to charge money for it. ( Not since the Hippies are gone). TOO CROWDED, too many gawkers in boats.. Lake travis is 50 feet down and awful for swimming these last couple of years because of the drought. I live about 10 miles from Lake Travis.
I am chopping my indeterminate tomatoes down and I will get another crop in the fall. The nights are now to hot for toms to set.


I'm in upstate NY on the Vt border and if you could look in my back yard you'd see infected Ash trees, which is common around here. They leaf out, then the leaves turn black and fall off and then sometimes releaf out and sometimes not.
As I'm sitting here at the computer the one ash tree back there leafed out just fine and is still holding on to the original leaves.
What can I say, yes, I do think it's Off topic b'c it has nothing to do with the tomato Forum at all. And while I understand you wanting to get the word out about CT there are many folks in many states who already know about it.
Is there another Forum here at GW, like a tree Forum, where it might get the word out faster?
Maybe you already did that?
Carolyn, just trying to be helpful, really.

Bingo Tomahtohs, that's it exactly! With all due respect to Dave and Carolyn- and I mean that sincerely as I've learned so much from their posts on this site- I think they possibly may be unaware of this particular tomato plant phenomenon. I'll keep this thread alive if I discover anything worth posting as my anal retentive nature will not let it die without a reasonable explanation.

OK, here we go again. LOL
Complete self pollenization of a tomato ovary, or also accomplished by cross pollination , whatever, as long as all ovules in the tomato ovary are fertilized, then the small green nub called the ovary starts enlarging and about after a week or so you can see it start to enlarge and then it goes on to form a mature fruit.
If not all ovules in the ovary are fertilized by pollen, then that green nub does not enlarge and after a while turns a darker color and then RIP.
There's really no hibernation, as some have been calling it, it's just that the length of time after all ovules in the ovary have been fertilized is variable until the ovary starts enlarging and that's the confusing issue here.
And yes, from seeds taken from a single fruit there can be self pollenized ones that when sown give rise to the correct variety and seeds that are the result of cross pollination and yes, it's been found that up to four different kinds of seeds can be found within a single fruit due to self and cross pollination.
Temps and humidity have to be favorable for pollination to even occur in the first place but once that's happened then further weather related events are not going to wake up a tomato ovary out of "hibernation" and cause it to enlarge, etc.
Does that help? I sure hope so. ( smile)
Carolyn

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That's the reason I stopped growing them. the initial fruits may be larger but they soon drop off in size as the other blossom clusters develop. Try Favorita or Sakura. These hold their size better than others I've grown and I feel are well worth the extra seed cost.

there a very meaty tomato, with kind of a sweet taste to me. Been saving seed from all these monsters. they have a very pretty color. I'm also growing Eva purple, Brandywine, Mortage lifter and sun gold cherry.
Georgia streak cut open

Mortgage Lifter


Also growing Georgia Streak and like the looks. I think many overlook this one. However your Mortgage Lifter don't look like ones I've seen. I've not seen an oblate fruit but a large fruit as deep as wide. The 2 bottom fruits in the picture look like Rebelski, a slightly lobed, perfect shape, oblate tomato. Maybe it's just the picture angle.


I too heard that thunder and saw the lightning this morning.
I looked out at my plants and saw a hole in my shadecloth causing it to slip down from its stake and hit the plants. I figured that I'd better repair it before the rain came in.
Here I am at 3:00 am on a ladder repairing a hole with lightning flashing all around me. Got it fixed and headed back inside thinking to myself "bring that rain, and bring it hard". Of course it only sprinkled for about 3 minutes.




I'm no expert, but it doesn't look like it. The stems would be infected also. Plus, it would spread rapidly. late blight wiped out more than half my plants in about 3 days, 4 years ago.