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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

How about this one ?

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Indigo Rose, the world’s first tomato variety with purple anthocyanins, was released commercially this year by the vegetable breeding program at Oregon State University.

“The purple color is extraordinary,” said Jim Myers, who heads the vegetable breeding program. “It has a good balance of sugars and acids and tastes just like a tomato.” (Anthocyanins are essentially tasteless.)

The new tomato is released as an open pollinated variety, and as such, seed saved from self-pollinated plants will grow true and not produce hybrids. “It’s also important to know that these tomatoes are not GMO,” Myers said. “Genetic engineering techniques are never used to develop these lines.

    Bookmark     February 25, 2015 at 7:44PM
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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

Seysonn, I have two purple striped red tomato plants, bred from the same stock as the ones you depicted. I was wary of growing these beforehand because I thought it was a step backward in breeding for flavor, and now after putting my mouth where my keyboard was by eating many purple striped tomatoes, I think they are the worst tasting tomato I've ever grown. I like them as much as the First Lady likes beets (and just to be clear, I love beets and broccoli). The use of the blue tomatoes I've found best is cooked with broccoli, onions, okra and hot and sweet peppers in a delicious gumbo. With all that going on the bitter aftertaste goes away...

PC (maybe not perfectly PC tonight)

    Bookmark     February 25, 2015 at 10:52PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

Here are couple pictures borrowed from internet.
The first one is Big Beef,

Here is a picture of Better Boy

    Bookmark     February 25, 2015 at 2:11AM
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sharonrossy(Montreal 5B)

I just sent for seeds for Bear Creek which is supposed to be amazing. Indian stripe, black from tula and CP will be in the mix as well

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 11:50AM
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Stacey Breckel

I like black cherry and cherokee purple best. I didn't have much luck with japanese black trifele. It produced only one tomato. It was the only failure in the garden last year out of 13 varieties.

    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 9:22PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

I think, if you have to deal withshort season, winter sowing is not the answer. We start seeds inside under light 6 to 8 weeks prior to plant out to get a head start. TOMATO SEEDS need a minimum of 60 -70f soil temperature to sprout on time. That would be fine if you have a warm and long growing season. I have done it in GA. But here in PNW it would take til late June to see some thing coming up. By then I am getting ready to pick red ripe tomatoes.
JUST MY OPINION>

Seysonn

1 Like    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 5:08PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

You have a point, Seysonn. I've already sown 4 tomato containers with winter sowing. I only need 10-12 tomato plants and I plan to purchase organic tomato starts at my favorite nursery. So I guess it depends on how effective the winter sowing is and when I have a transplant size tomato to put out. I will definitely be using nursery grown larger transplants for at least four of my tomatoes. And this year will be the deciding factor, about whether to purchase tomato starts or start from seed.

I had thought I might start seed under lights this winter. I've done it successfully before, but I wasn't able to do it this year. So, I'm trying it every which way but under lights this year. [g] I'm also going to put one Sungold, one Purple Cherokee and Black Prince in full sun and one each in 6 hrs of sun and see what kind of difference it makes. I think I will also buy a Sungold tomato start from the nursery and plant that out back in the 6 hrs of sun and compare how that does to the winter sown Sungold tomato start in 6 hrs of sun in the back.

    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 5:18PM
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Shule(about 4a)
I don't know a lot about the topic of stabilizing a hybrid, but I know they can get a stabilized hybrid ready for market in 3-4 years. Somehow, I don't think they're getting nine generations through in that time, but maybe it's possible, if they have a way to speed growth and do it all year round. I guess it's possible.

Whatever the case, I think unstabilized tomatoes (peppers, etc.) are largely an unexplored frontier. I mean, with one set of seeds, you could get different kinds of tomatoes every year (and different kinds the same year, even). As long as they're bred to produce a desirable variation every time, that's totally awesome.
    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 3:30PM
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Shule(about 4a)
Regarding the OP, it looks kind of like a Black Zebra tomato.
    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 3:42PM
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azdoctor

Nitrogen soil tests are not particularly useful because nitrogen changes forms so rapidly. Total nitrogen tells you very little about the availability of nitrogen during the upcoming growing season. Nitrate-nitrogen tells you what is immediately available, but that can change rapidly.

That being said, if you had lots of flowers, the plant was not just growing vegetatively. The flowers either did not get pollinated, or aborted before they developed. Many tomato varieties are fairly heat sensitive, and do not produce fruit in hot weather. Cherry tomato varieties are very heat tolerant and will set and develop fruit even in very hot weather. I would try different varieties and not worry about changing your plant nutrition.

    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 2:27PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

NOT FRUITING can be due to more than onen factor:

A) plant is not flowering:
--- Too much nitrogen, not enough P
In this case you can tell that the foliage is lush dark green.

B) plant is flowering, but NOT fruiting.
--- High or very low temperatures.
--- Too much nutrients, forcing the plant to stay in vegetative state. So the flowers are aborted.

Pollinators are not needed for tomatoes. So that is not a problem.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 3:03PM
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suncitylinda

Beesneeds - What did you think of Roughwood Golden Plum?

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 3:48PM
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beesneeds(zone 6)

It was a pretty good producer, the fruits were tasty and even with their growth and size habit of the fruits. More resistant to cracking than the bigger tomatoes I grew, but about on par with the Juane Flamme. It was great for canning, and particularly good for dehydrating. Plants were sturdy and stayed on the smaller/more manageable side- still for sure needed caging. I would grow it again.

    Bookmark     February 24, 2015 at 6:44AM
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chrishashtags_gw

I read up on tomato spotted wilt virus. What I have going on doesn't look exactly like the pictures I saw, but there are some similarities. I didn't really see any info on what this means for the plant or how to treat it. Is the plant a goner? Should I just take it out?

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 1:21PM
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antipodean(10b)

I'm no expert on this, but i think this is the virus that affected mine a few months ago. anyway mine deteriorated quite quickly and then the plant next to it started to show the same symptoms so yanked both of them quick smart as i believe the virus is transmitted via thrips. The others survived.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 9:14PM
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centexan254 zone 8 Temple, Tx

A few that had to come inside for a few days. As well as some that I have potted up. Also I have a few that I still need to pot up that have been waiting longer than I care to say.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 8:36PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

Here is a picture of just 8 vars, as pioneers. They germinated 5 days ago.
The bulk has to come in couple of weeks.

I re potted some of them today, into 3 1/2" pots.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 8:55PM
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hudson___wy(3)

thebutcher - We will both have an opinion on Jersey Boy - by the end of the season - I spent the big bucks at Burpee necessary to try this new variety. I can't tell you a thing about it except for what I have read at this point. My starts of Jersey Boy are already up and I hope it will be a great one!

1 Like    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 8:17PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

All righ Hudson. Good luck.
Probably it will be about 110 days from now to pick that first ripe tomato and post a picture on this board. I am looking forward to my first Brandy Boy about the same time.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 8:29PM
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suncitylinda

Laurel's Heirloom Tomato Plants ships out of SoCal. Sorry I don't have a link but if you google it, it will pop. Shes been around a long time.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 6:32PM
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Seysonn_ 7b-WA/HZ1

You can buy some from BBS. Last year Fred Meyers had quite a good selection of heirlooms and hybrid. Most were not Bonnie's.. HD and Lowes only carried Bonnie's plants.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 6:54PM
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Nitsua(6b MO)

Eva Purple Ball's oddity is in the name as there's really nothing purple about it. Its more of a dark pink/red. I like to think the person who named it was color blind. There's a very similar variety called Redfield Beauty, but I have yet to grow it. I'll add that Eva Purple Ball holds up very well in intense summer heat. 2013 and 2012 were the 4th and 5th hottest summers on record here and Eva kept producing while many other varieties withered and halted production.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 11:26AM
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suncitylinda

Robinava - Glad you're trying Eva. It's a very productive and often recommended tomato; I have several seedlings of EPB growing right now!

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 11:27AM
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christacharlene(6)

message sent! Hopefully it worked.

    Bookmark     February 22, 2015 at 12:28PM
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briergardener_gw

It worked. I got your message and answered it.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2015 at 6:47AM
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bragu_DSM 5

yup, there it is. under BOTH 'g' and 't'

Always went to 't'

this is just for kicks

    Bookmark     February 22, 2015 at 6:16PM
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Nitsua(6b MO)

I've received official assurance that the "cut off" content in several of the FAQ links will be restored soon, so be patient. The good news - it's being worked on.

    Bookmark     February 22, 2015 at 6:43PM
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