16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

If it is chlorothalonil 29.6% the quoted shelf like is between 2 and 5 years depending on who you read, and depending on how it was stored. Cool, dark storage being preferred as usual.

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 8:59AM
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Labradors

Ditto what smithmal said, and it will be interesting to talk about our results with the two competitive varieties.

I don't think you can improve on Sungold, but it would be nice to find something similar in an OP variety.

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 5:45AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Thanks, I did order tomato seed for Sungold already, but I will often purchase one or two plants at the local nursery, too. We love Sungold. Rarely makes it to the table, because everyone snacks on them in the garden. lol I will look for the OP varieties Ambrosia Gold and Big Sungold Select. Thanks. And thanks for the link.

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 5:53AM
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hoosier40 6a Southern IN

Finally made it! I guess my popup blocker was tripping me up. Unusually cruel punishment PC. Supposed to be close to zero here this weekend. Still about a month away from starting seed. Sure looks good though. Congrats!

Formerly Whosurtomato

    Bookmark     February 10, 2015 at 2:59PM Thanked by PupillaCharites
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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

Welcome back Hoosier ... The bright tomatoes were just to spruce up GW's new home... These still cost $8/lb to grow with (my) unpaid labor. Get revenge in August when the only thing that grows here is the water bill. The growers in Central and South Florida leave me in the dust, Our climate has been like Hilton Head Island, SC this season, nothing like Orlando and Tampa :(

PC

    Bookmark     February 10, 2015 at 5:07PM
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Coconutisland

Flora series Bloom is a very specific blend and designed for flowering plants... So, begonias or marigolds, but not veggies and fruit. While thoase plants flower, they do not need the high concentration to focus on JUST the flower...

I am actually experimenting right now with a full hydro gro using the Miracle grow tomato crystals. Couple of weeks into it and it seems to be going good, I am using it a about half strength (per recommended Ml/Gal) and only adding fresh nutrients every 7 days (weekly). The rest of the week, I keep that container filled by adding plain water...

    Bookmark     February 7, 2015 at 4:10PM
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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

I would use them for tomatoes:

4:2:1 (Gro:Micro:Bloom), and need hard water. The dilution you use depends on the drainage. Generally I would use it at 15 teaspoons combined in a full five gallon bucket and not water unless I were sure it wouldn't rain and they soil would hold it a while. So, a 5 gallon bucket would have 8:4:2 teaspoons (G:M:B). This is a very expensive fertilizer to use in this way!

Coconutisland, you will harm your plants if you are growing in a true hydroponic culture with an otherwise inert growing medium, such as a DWC and using MG as a substitution for your hydro nutes on a weight basis. If you use it in lower concentrations, the plants will have insufficient fertilizer and not thrive. MG is not a suitable hydroponic fertilizer, what it is, is a relatively economical soluble supplement used as recommended that gives excellent results.

PC

edit: noticed OP said SWCs and raised beds. The expensive comment is for raised beds. The mixture above is for the SWC on alternate waterings.

This post was edited by PupillaCharites on Sun, Feb 8, 15 at 12:49

    Bookmark     February 8, 2015 at 12:43PM
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moiraine_gw(5)

Hmmm... I think it was the smog then, if the soil wasn't too wet. The plant probably couldn't get to the CO2 it needed. If the smog is gone, it should fully recover.

    Bookmark     February 7, 2015 at 11:02AM
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Red_Na_Xela

Thanks :D

    Bookmark     February 8, 2015 at 4:27AM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I ordered some this year, but it is still too early to start them here.

How did you start them? Did you have bottom heat?

I built a shelf over my water heater to start seeds I get really good germination with that setup.

    Bookmark     February 7, 2015 at 11:56AM
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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

Hey Seysonn,

I'd be pretty sure saying it is Black Cherry or some selection derived from it, for the two easy to locate ones in the pic, big dark cherry tomatoes, on the upper left and bottom center of the pic.

PC

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 4:47PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thanks PC.

I was shopping @ Trader Joes today. They had the same kind of cherry mix and obviously, the black one. I bought a pack. I weighed the black/brown ones. They are 0.50 oz each.
So I've got the freshest seed to plant.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 9:11PM
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labradors_gw

Woo Hoo! Good news indeed! In less than 40 days, you should have ripe tomatoes :).

Linda

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 4:08PM
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vinnybob(z8Oregon)

I have aerogarden too. You could try to detach the arm that holds the light and hang it higher. Bought LED light this year so no more height problems. I just use the Aerogarden for seedlings before the LED light gets them.

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 5:27PM
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naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan(5B SW Michigan)

Here's one old thread. I'd follow carolyn's suggestions.

Under decent storage conditions, 2001 would not seem too old for success.

I have found older seeds often take longer to germinate. Carolyn's suggestion to not give up even after waiting a month is a good one for a variety you value. I've waited that long and even longer and eventually ended up with sprouts and good plants.

Wishing you success with your less than ideal stored ones.

Here is a link that might be useful: Germinating old tomato seed

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 10:21AM
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fusion_power

I have an article on this page that covers waking up old seed. It is the last article on the page.

http://www.selectedplants.com/seedlings.htm

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 11:30AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

You already seem to know the answer: i.e, indets continue fruiting all season, IF they are not diseased or neglected. The amount of yield would depend on several factors: (*) variety (**) climate (***) growing conditions. However, indets tend to produce more heavily earlier than later in the season, IMO.

On determinants: Some produce more than one flush. I have had some that fruited just like indets. They are Dets in growth habit but fruit like indets. I am getting into more Dets, as they require less space and are easier to maintain.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 8:30AM
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bobincentralMA

Hi, well ...size doesn't matter. They may be small but they pack a punch and are delicious and addictive ~ try Matt's Wild Cherry. A micro small one but you'll be eating half of what you pick along the way. Heavy producer. I went from growing one to four plants this year as everyone loved them too. Peace

    Bookmark     July 13, 2013 at 9:45PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

bump

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 6:44PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

Some people do use compost in containers, but it can severely interfere with drainage if it makes up more than 15-20 percent of your mix. It also is actually very low in nutrients and tomatoes require a lot of nutrients to grow well. How experienced are you with growing plants in containers? If you've had success growing a fast growing plant in a container of compost over a long, hot season, then you are an exception to the rule.

Container growing is very different from growing in the ground. I would encourage you to do some more reading in the Container forum. The link below goes to a thread that has run continuously since 2005. Hundreds of people have reported excellent results following this advice.

Here is a link that might be useful: Container Growing, water movement and retention

    Bookmark     February 1, 2015 at 2:36PM
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zeligbass

Suddenly I'm reading about compost tea... I guess the whole fertilizing thing will keep me busy until the seeds arrive...

Thanks very much.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 5:50PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I am using a cheapo one gallon. It is enough for my needs. I don't spray more than 1/2 gallon fungicide at a time.
But for someone with over 100 plants I would suggest a professional grade 2 gallon, hand pumped, back pack. STIHL is name that pops up in my mind. I would avoid Black and Decker. I have had bad experience with its nozzle system.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     January 31, 2015 at 4:36AM
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smithmal

+1 on the Solo. I've got a bunch of different sprayers and the one linked below is far and away my favorite (2L size). I especially like the fact that the end rotates so that you can easily spray on the underside of the leaves.

Here is a link that might be useful: Solo 420 2-Liter One-Hand Pressure Sprayer

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 1:55PM
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caryltoo Z7/SE PA

I use any and all tomatoes for canning. I do grow Amish paste because it's meaty, but I'll run any tomato through the strainer to make sauce, even cherries. So go with Dave's advice and grow for taste.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 9:41AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Of course with meatier tomatoes you can get a bigger bang for the buck but any tomato that you like to slice, put in salad all are good. To get a thicker consistency fast, I mash them and dray the juice for drinking pleasure and soups and process the remainder.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 12:32PM
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