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Not much difference between Matina and Bloody Butcher. The letter bred in the Netherlands the former in Germany, both have small red fruits and PL foliage.
Old German, noting as I did in a reccent post here that there are over 200 named gold/red bicolors and while folks have faves, as I di, they all are pretty much the same.
Sandul Moldovan, a family heirloom and darn good at that IMO.
Carolyn
Tnanks for the info. Stuart I may leave 3 or 4 out of this list. my planted list is in the garden hot house. I will add 6 to 10 for a late crop .BW Red- BW croatia--Rose--Limbaugh`s--Stump--Ponderosa--Crimson Cushion=- Wins all--Brandy boy--Big Beef-Spudkee-chero Chocolate==chero purple- BLack krim Indian stripe-Kbx--( sure i missed 4or5)
Dig, thanks garden is 20+ yrs. old==(75x 100)Started with 20 cu yds. of natures helper tilled into good clay soil base. I have added 5 to 12 40 lbs. bags of black kow each year, plus home made compost. spray one gal of fish and seaweed emulision most years. Keep PH 6to 6.5. I`m 99and 44/100% organic. I have to cheat from time to time with white fly`s. THANK BILL
Thanks for the advice everyone! I will keep this in mind when transplanting the rest of my tomatoes and peppers.
So if I understand you right Dave, I can still use the 18oz cups, just only fill them halfway with potting mix and add more as the plants grow??
Also, I seem to have a problem with my recently transplanted tomatoes. The stems and leaves are starting to curl under/down on the majority of the plants. I believe they have probably doubled in size since I posted the last pics. Otherwise they are still nice and green and healthy looking. I have tried to increase the lighting for them to 14-16 hours and will begin the hardening off process Sunday. I would like to be able to move them out to my cold frame 24/7 by Thursday or Friday. I'm just trying to figure out why they are curling down. Any ideas?
Thanks!
the purple is often causes by chilly soil,, also the plants need 16hr of light, and 8 hrs dark .. not providing the dark will also cause purple growth , but it sounds more likely to be cold soil .. the plant has trouble taking up phosphorous if the soil remains below a certain temperature.
More of a Soil Forum question since they deal with these daily but IMO it is a darn good set of results and I wouldn't worry about adding much of anything. Especially since your organic content is so high.
Maybe a bit of N with say one of the diluted liquid fish concoctions as needed throughout the growing season. You sure don't need any P or K.
Personally I envy that good of a pH since mine normally runs 8+.
Dave
Actually if frost threatens, your best bet is to pull the entire plant and hang it upside-down somewhere warm for them to ripen. The tomatoes will pull nutrients from the dying plant, and you don't have to worry about pressure-spots from sitting on the counter.
Carla in Sac
I haven't done that but someone I know at another site who lives in a very southern climate has been doing it this year and comparing saved seed growouts of Compari with F1 Mountain Magic which has been advertised as a Compari type.
In summary, I think I'd say that the many plants he put out of Compari gave rise to red fruits of all different sizes and tastes, which is to be expected, while of course the MM F1 red fruits were uniform and delicious.
I know MM very well b'c the breeder, Dr. Randy Gardner formerly of NCSU, now retired but still actively breeding tomatoes, he's the one with the Mountain Series that many know of, sent me lots of seed of MM F1 Smarty F1 and Plum Regal F1 and I distributed them in my annual seed offer elsewhere.
Since Comparis were bred to be grown in greenhouses where conditions are controlled and not outside, I've also read that they may develop white cores when grown outside.
Last I knew this southern gardener did not intend to make selections to get a genetically stable Compari.
Hope that helps.
Carolyn
I grew a single plant three years ago -- the bad Late Blight year.
I picked a few fruit before Late Blight got the plant. They seemed identical to the grocery Campari. I picked them quite early to get them into the house before the plant was infected. There was a noticeable white core, and I wondered if picking them early increased the white core. My notes on the variety say the white core is a problem unless the fruit are allowed to ripen completely, so it's possible I ate them too early.
I made a very delicious tomato vegetable soup this past weekend with some Amish Paste that I canned last summer. I also make a lot of soups and sauces with Opalka.
I've also grown Super Marzano one year. The flavor was good, but not better than Opalka or Amish.
I would heartily recommend those three, But to my palate, Opalka is my #1, with Amish in second and Marzano in third
This year I'm not even bothering with other tomatoes other than paste types. The flavor, firm flesh and easy processing make them and excellent all around tomato. Fresh eating and roasting expecially are good.
Here is a link that might be useful: Check out my tumblr for a post about the soup
Lemon basil thrives for me near my tomatoes, and I like to edge with nasturtiums. I don't get enormous nasturtiums there, but I have a raised bed and perhaps my soil is too rich. Marigolds get devoured by roly-polies so I have given up on them in the tomato bed. In the poor, dusty soil next to the garage is where I get monster nasturtium plants.
In what way are your tomatoes not doing well?
Are you seeing disease?
What was the community garden before it was a community garden? What is the soil like? Has anyone tested the soil for nutrients and pH?
Are you able to water your tomatoes regularly? Do you fertilize, and if so, with what? Do you use mulch?
When your neighbors and relatives complain their tomatoes do poorly, exactly what are their problems?
Tomatoes grow pretty well here in the Oak Ridge/ Knoxville area. I've grown them since I was 9 and almost never had a summer without fresh tomatoes. I think I got powdery mildew once but that was at the end of the season, I mostly lose them to the deer/racoons/possums or whatever else keeps invading my yard :?
My favorite by far is the snow white.....I love the sweet ones! Botanical interests carries a "rainbow blend" that has snow white, green grape, red sweetie, multi colored, and sun gold.....the multi colored is very good too......starts off yellow, then gets a beautiful rose colored hue!
Peggy, things are the way they are here in the Seed Exchange Forum b'c that's the way it was enabled when Spike owned GW and it's never been changed by the succession of GW owners who came after him. Spike did that when the first regs about USDA restrictions were introduced about keeping noxious weeds out of the US. That has to be longer than 10 years ago. While my page shows I've been a member here since I think about 2002, that's wrong b'c what happened is a computer glitch and all info as to when folks joined was accidentally deleted. I've been here at GW for quite a few years over 10 but do most of my reading and posting at another site and come here only occasionally these days.
I don't have a scanner, but if someone here has a 2012 SSE paper Yearbook and knows how to upload a scanned page in a post, well, that might help you.
However, the other comments I made are separate from that page in the YEarbook and are directed at the current reality of the situation as I tried to point out in my post above.
Carolyn
Hi everyone,
I have seeds coming - thank you for all of the information above.
Please do not post anymore on this thread since I automatically get the responses sent to me. If anyone wants to continue a discussion on trading with Canadians/Americans etc please start a new thread so I don't get copied on it.
Cheers,
Peggy
Am I misreading the original post? I thought Rathos was referring to the tomatoes produced in the SAME SEASON as the small yellow tomato being messed up. If so, I was under the belief that such an occurrence was impossible...that only the seeds, and therefore the fruit the FOLLOWING year, would be changed.
she grew a small yellow tomato somewhere in her plot and that the characteristics ended up spreading during the same year, messing up her other varieties... is that possible?
...... is what was said and I assumed it was seed saved from the varieties grown the same season that the small yellow one had X pollinated that season, and if so then yes, it would only show up with saved crossed seed.
But I'm also wondering how the small yellow one was known to be the culprit. With accidental crosses one knows the female parent but not usually the male parent without doing one heck of a lot of grow outs to genetically find a clue as to what the male parent was.
Carolyn
You already posted this further down the page. I linked it below in case you can't find it.
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: Previous post