16,949 Garden Web Discussions | Growing Tomatoes

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flowersnhens(Maine 4)

Okay, thank you !!! I appreciate it !

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 5:31PM
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flowersnhens(Maine 4)

Okay, Thank you, I appreciate it !

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 5:32PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here you go (see link below).

Personally I like both although there are other cherry varieties I prefer. The SM plant is quite huge if space is a consideration for you and the fruit tend to be bigger too IME. The 100 is sweeter to me but taste is very subjective.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Sweet 100 vs. Sweet Million discussion

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 8:33PM
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sue_ct(z6 CT)

I also think sweet100 is sweeter. If you like sweet, I would go with that one, if not the other or actually, a different variety. I assume you like sweet if you are considering these two.

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 2:00PM
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keski(6)

My vote is for Chocolate Cherry. Dusky purple with a complex taste. Roasted slowly --- yum.
Keski

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 12:22PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

I grew Super Sweet 100 and Tami G last year, and they both did great. The Tami G was an extremely vigorous plant, but I think the Super Sweet 100 were tougher fruit and I don't recall a single one cracking.

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 12:30PM
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larryw(z6Ohio)

I see where I posted back in 2013 that I had some older seeds.
Now they are two years older than they were in 2013, but I still have about 50 seeds dating from 2000. They have been in the freezer since then so I think maybe 50% should germinate.

If anybody wants some I'll send 6 seeds for a SASE. Just email me and we can make arrangements.

I think I might give them a go this year just to refresh my seed and see how they do.

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 11:46AM
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keith100_gw(NY 5A)

Larryw , thank you for the generous offer . I have emailed you , thank you in advance. Been looking for Estlers Mortgage Lifter for two years now
Keith

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 10:31AM
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smithmal

Peter1142,

Love all except for Golden Rave. I've never grown it but there are limited reviews and from the ones I have read, the flavor isn't very promising (google Dave's Garden and Golden Rave). Seems similar to yellow pear which is probably the top ZAPPED variety on everyone's list.

Some good alternative yellow/orange cherries include:

Galina's Yellow
Gajo De Melon
Jaune Flamme

smithmal

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 4:33PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

I got the Golden Rave as my wife has had it before and it didn't give her heartburn... no other reason. We'll see! :)

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 8:10AM
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christacharlene(6)

I did a search and the only place that I could find it listed is The Sample Seed Shop. It isn't currently for sale but you can email her and request that she grows it out. Just go to her website and look under master seed list. You can find the email address there.

You could also try putting in a request on the seed swap forum.

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 3:30PM
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Mike Biondo

Thanks! Yes, I have previously seen it on the Sample Seed Shop inventory page. However, I didn't think to send an email inquiring about it. Will do that...

Mike

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 4:52PM
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smithmal

green go,

I did and the taste was very bland. I even had a friend of mine (who I got the seeds from) also growing it at the same time (he does container growing) and he also agreed that the taste was average at best.

That being said, tomatoes are a funny breed... one season fabulous, the next, ehhh....

    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 11:02PM
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green_go (Canada, Ontario, z 5a)(5A)

Interesting, smithmal . Mine HJB were rather sour, but definitely not bland. ThatâÂÂs why I used them in salads with pale yellow tomato Wapsipinicon Peach (shown above) which is the same size, but sweet and completely lacks any sourness. They balanced each other perfectly.

This post was edited by green_go on Wed, Jan 28, 15 at 9:26

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 9:24AM
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labradors_gw

Congratulations! Are they tasty?

Linda

    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 3:19PM
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goodseedcharlie

Thank You, Thank You! Yes the yellow taxi's have a nice sweet flavor to them and are a favorite around here. My kids walk around eating them like apples.

    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 3:27PM
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fireduck(10a)

S...I thought that might be the case. Thanks for confirming.

    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 10:12AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)
    Bookmark     January 27, 2015 at 11:57AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I would speculate that it isn't a variety name per se but just seeds from some unknown variety grown in that manner - hydroponically, under lights, in large automated factories that are often underground and in huge urban greenhouses - which is a common practice in Japan.

Google Pasona O2 company photos as an example of this high-tech approach.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 2:45PM
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PupillaCharites(FL 9a)

Sure. If it is just a flat, bring it in just before bedtime and out as soon as you wake up during this sensitive time of development. There is only arguable benefit to more than 16 hours of light, which I wouldn't do. I would not expose them to night garage forecasts under 55 F, which gives you room to play in case it gets a few degrees colder than you thought.

PC

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 12:26PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Yes, definitely move the sprouts away from heat mat and put them under light, at about 2" distance. You can also make an enclosure around the lite to keep them warmer . Also as an option, a 60w incandescent light can provide enough heat inside an enclosure.

Seysonn

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 1:19PM
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zensojourner

I used to bend over backwards "amending" my heavy clay soils, using cover crops, double-digging - the whole 9 yards.

Until one year I dug into the ground and found the cover crop I had planted last year perfectly preserved between the layers of cold, gray clay where I had dug it in the year before.

So I went with mulching - because a few years before that, I had a plot in a community garden where we had access to a gigantic pile of hay. I mulched to a depth of over 12" - AFTER the hay had settled - it was the middle of a drought that year and I had the best garden I had ever had, despite having to haul water to the site in milk jugs. Which, btw, were a fairly new innovation at the time, and cost more than buying the milk in cardboard cartons.

Since then I have found that unless you live in slug central, a double layer of broken down brown corrugated cardboard boxes covered by the cheap or free mulch of your choice - even including bagged wood mulches, as long as you avoid the ones that are dyed - and a drip irrigation system leave you with as near to a carefree garden as one could possibly hope for and still be living in the real world. Oh yeah, and not having other people do all the work for you, LOL!

Mulching and measured drip irrigation also, it turns out, encourages earthworms, and that IS just like having other people do all the work for you as far as soil amendments. They aerate, they pull down the lower layers of mulch into the soil as it decomposes, they do all that soil "mixing" that double digging was supposed to do at the expense of back breaking labor. Except worms don't HAVE a backbone and this is what they do naturally.

Don't pull the cardboard up to the base of the plants, instead leave an area clear all the way around the stem for where you will put your emitters (or aim your watering wand if you hand water).

I also habitually plant everything but row crops (like peas) in a bowl-shaped depression to funnel water to the plant roots. I leave more area free around tomatoes because I plant them trench-style - I pluck off all but the top one or two sets of leaves, dig a trench that slopes upwards to where I want the stem to emerge. This encourages root development along the entire stem. I leave that entire area free of the cardboard mulch so the entire stem can easily be watered.

I do pull the top mulch, which is usually wood mulch now that I'm stuck in suburbia, across the trench, but not all the way up to the stem. Leaving that clear eliminates slug damage, though that's not usually been a problem for me.

If you have access to something easily compostable like straw or hay, you can just keep layering it with new mulch every year. Yes, hay has the reputation for being weedy, but you won't much notice that if you keep the mulch deep. Also the cardboard layers help to keep any weeds from rooting well, and the thick mulch makes anything that manages to poke its head above the top very spindly and easy to pull.

Still, you might want to avoid hay when possible because sometimes it can infest your garden with bindweed, the seeds of which can lie dormant in the soil for virtually ever. This is only a problem when you STOP mulching, but there it is. The year I had access to unlimited amounts of hay, there were already much worse things than bindweed in that field, which had been farmed for decades and was thoroughly infested with giant hogweed already.

However in an urban setting I've found that bagged wood mulches work just fine and with the cardboard underlayment, you don't need more than 2" or 3" depth. It will eventually rot, but not in less than several years. You can also often get mulch from yard waste the city has gathered and processed for little or no cash outlay. This is often at least partially composted.

The cardboard lasts 2 years and sometimes more. If you're using a longer term top layer like wood mulch, you can easily pull it back (especially in raised beds) and lay down new cardboard. If you're using something like straw, you can just lay new cardboard on top of last year's mulch when the underlying cardboard has broken down. I'd plan on doing that every 3 years or so. Then cover over with your compostable short term mulch.

Do not use grass clippings as a mulch. They mat easily and will tend to shed water.

You might be tempted to use shredded paper as a mulch. In most parts of the country I advise you not to try that, at least not as a top layer. It, too, tends to compress, mat, and shed water - but worse than that it is usually mostly white paper, reflects too much sun, and keeps the soil not just cool, but unacceptably cold too far into the growing season. Instead I compost it with grass clippings to balance out the high nitrogen from grass clippings.

Mulching with a cardboard underlayment works well with hand watering or drip irrigation. Don't even try it if you are top watering with something like an oscillation lawn sprinkler.

    Bookmark     December 17, 2014 at 12:55PM
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stealth92

Zen,
Am going to try your cardboard and straw mulch this year in my new garden. I hope the strong Kansas winds in summer don't cause a major problem. I will try to keep the mulch wet to weight it down.

I wholeheartedly agree with your advice NOT to put grass clippings in your garden. We had two early summers with tremendous rains and grass growth about seven years ago, which prompted us to buy a grass catcher for our John Deere mower so I could use the grass clippings from our three mowed acres for mulch. I put it on about 6 inches deep and had the most beautiful gardens that never needed weeding for those two years. I found out in the next few years that my tomatoes were plagued with alternaria blight. Then it got worse. Over the next three years I found that I could no longer grow many other crops....peppers, potatoes, green beans, cantaloupe, watermelon, and even zucchini (!!!) would start out fine and then die after a month or so. My 8000 square foot garden beds were done. I am starting over in a new place this year. Won't ever make that mistake again!

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 10:31PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

On the subject of "Hybrid Slicer", I will be growing one called:

>>>> Brandy Boy It is well reviewed by members here for a couple of years. The fruit size is described as 14 to 16 oz, pink color. Those who have grown it say that it is fairly productive and early (DTM ~76). Plus the good old taste of Brandywine ( same taste but more yield).

Seysonn

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 9:17PM
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carolb_w_fl(zone 9/10)

I'm growing Tomande VFFNT for the 3rd year in a row - they're that good - got mine from Tomato Growers Supply Co. - doesn't seem to be in their print catalog, but you can find it on their website, using the search box...

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomande info

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 9:25PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

As I said in response to your other post, get the dome off and get them under bright light ASAP. Be careful not to let the potting mix get soggy.

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 5:09PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. Domes should always be removed as soon as seed sprouting begins. Otherwise you quickly risk damping off - one reason why experienced growers never use the dome things or similar covers.

Root rot (brown dying seedlings) is also indicative of root rot from over-watering. If these seedlings are in peat pellets or peat pots (over-watering is a common problem with them) then transplanting them to potting mix will sometimes allow them to be saved.

Dave

    Bookmark     January 24, 2015 at 5:21PM
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