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Late season growth could be due to the moderate temperatures we are having now. Mid-summer heat is very stressful for plants and they appreciate the good weather. And maybe the rain has something to do with it also. But soon the days will get too short and the nights will get too cool for good growth or fruit set, so enjoy it while you can.
Bob B.


dickie, I have read that it can be due to either lack of light or heat. I don't know if that is true or not, but there are many who claim it to be true.
My seedlings get a minimum of 7 hours of full sun and most days 10 hours so I don't think lack of light is the problem.

Hi I had the same problem with Irene.Lots of rain and wind after the storm passed I picked 20 or so green tomatoes as the plants were broken I then put the green ones in my kitchen in the dark area on there tops and they are ripening! as far as taste better than store bought!

Hello,
Before Irene came I picked the largest tomato's in my garden. If they had a good amount of color I just turned them up side down on a tray and put them in my kitchen in the darkest place. For the rest w/out color I got a lg. paper bag and put them in there,not touching,and put them in a dark place, these have to be checked daily. In fact all need to be checked and most do ripen for me.
I also do this at the end of the season if there are a lot of tomato's still on the vines before clean up. You have to check the bags because if one rots you have to throw it away,right away.
I have had good luck doing this for years,but you have to keep on top of it. As far as taste not really any different, so much better than store bought.
Don't think this yr. I'm going to have that many left as I had the worst tomato yr. ever!
Karen

I've been tomato growing for 19 years. If picked after the breaker stage and allowed to ripen indoors without the apple slice ethylene push they taste just as good as vine ripe IMO. Yes I have done taste comparisons. I can't pick exactly at the right hour (You'd have to to be PERFECTLY ripe) or even every day. I usually pick every three days and when I pick - I pick! Anything close gets picked, say three days close. Birds and rodents get very few that way. I must say, once and awhile I'll find a beautiful juicy deep red, gold or pink tomato and while still sun warm it is a nice treat...:)

I have learned that Blossom End Rot is caused by lack of consistent watering. My solution was rain barrels. I have 2-- 55 gal barrels to collect the rain water from the downspouts. Keep them about 18 in off the ground so you can install a faucet to fill 5 gal pails for hand watering. It works if you get enuf rain to fill the barrels or you could fill the barrels on your watering days. Good Luck!
TomF

Make sure you check the acidity level in your soil. I know Fulton Co. Extension Service offers this for a small fee. I have always heard that BER is caused by a need for lime to be added to the soil. As a side note, my Parks Whopper has been the best, most consistent producer in our garden this year.

I snip off cotyledons and leaves. I don't know if it's necessary, but I worry about rot. Yet I also worry that maybe I should remove the leaves a day or two before burying that area, lest bad microorganisms enter the fresh wounds.
If you have a really leggy seedling, you can bend the stem. I remember curling stems like corkscrews when potting-up to 16 oz. plastic cups.
It's supposed to make a stronger root system....

I was also wondering about planting past the cotyledons. I have young healthy plants with 2+ sets of healthy true leaves, and it's time to pot up. The problem is that I went out of town for a couple of days and left the plants in a sunny window instead of under their grow lights, and they got just a tiny bit leggy. Therefore, I'd like to cut off or bury the cotyledons with the potting, but I hesitate because they're still quite green and healthy, even though I've got big true leaves.

What I did was bury the plant just up to the cotyledons for most of my seedlings. A few very leggy plants, I buried past the cotyledons but left parts of the cotyledons exposed.
Mine had at least 2 sets of true leaves when I did that so I thought that would be sufficient for photosynthesis.


It is true that the smaller what you call runts usually don't have we well developed roots, but that's b'c most of the time, at least the way I start seedlings, they are in nutritional competition with other nearby seedlings.
Which is why thinning out seedlings helps a lot.
Trust me, you'll learn by experience. When I first started growing tomatoes there were no message sites to ask questions at, and that's true for many who post here and elsewhere and I did just fine as did they and you will as well, that I know.
Experience is the very best teacher there is.
Carolyn

I started the seeds in pots in sterile seed starting mix. I think the roots were not developed due to how hot and humid it is here right now. I had 1 seed per cell so I don't think it was competition.
The ones that did the worst were Kellogg's Breakfast, Virginia Sweets, OTV and Cherokee Purple. Sudduth, Landis and Plattfoot Brandywine and Sun Gold did the best. So I am going to stick with the latter 4 and then try again in November with the other 4.


Thanks for all the replys. I put them into a box as suggested and covered the entire box with newspapers and checked daily. I am happy to report that most are already various stages of red. Looks like they will all ripen and a lot sooner than I thought. Thanks again...this is a great forum.



Yes, all of the variables you mentioned are included which is why it's difficult to answer your question precisely for any specific variety.
I think it's best to say that seedlings should be transplanted from the seed pan or whatever you're using to start your seeds in to a larger container when they have about two sets of true leaves and forget about height.
For instance the variety Riesentraube, an indeterminate, forms a very short seedling to start with, so height is not important, but the number of sets of true leaves should still be the way you look at the situation.
I transplant mine when there are one to two sets of true leaves to 4 pak plastic cells about 2 X 2 inches/ cell, 8 paks to a standard nursery tray for 32 plants/ tray and grow them to outside transplant size in those same cells and transplant at about 6- 9 inches tall.
The FAQ here at GW on how to start from seeds,which I've referred you to before, discusses when to transplant from the seed pan, etc., in case you've forgotten about that FAQ. ( smile)
Suffice it to say that no two folks raise their plants the same way from seed, there are only guidelines, and you have to find out what works best for you in your particular situation by trying different ways of doing it that give you the results that you want.
Carolyn
Thanks, Carolyn. The results that I want are healthy, productive tomato plants, lol!