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Jennie, it is most likely that you are growing an F1 bee made hybrid. I mentioned Chuck Wyatt's Orange PL Cherry because there were statements above that indicated one did not exist. The genes for cherry size are highly dominant over the fasciated gene. Crossing a large potato leaf fasciated like LYH to just about any cherry will result in large cherry size fruit. From the look of yours, I think the cross was to a red variety. When a red and some yellows are crossed, the F1 fruit appear salmon colored with hints of pink/red. That is what I see in your fruit. It is still interesting and perhaps worth saving seed to see what grows from it next year.
Thanks Fusion, that is so helpful! I know so little about breeding tomatoes. I was wondering what the other "parent" might be. It could very well be some potato leaf red cherry since I do know potato leaf is recessive. And thanks for the information about Chuck Wyatt's Orange PL Cherry. Will be interesting to see how this hybrid tastes. Hopefully good, otherwise what am I going to do with all these fruits! ;-) Of the three plants from LYH seed, one is true, one is this orange salad size fruit. Still waiting on the third to see what that turns out to be. It is a smaller plant, like the cherry. But doesn't have the cherry like trusses on it and no fruit set yet.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading your responses to this thread! Thank you all so very much. The stuff I continue to learn on this forum....
centexan258 - I'm new to vegetable gardening so hadn't realized that these were 'potato leaves'.
theforgottennone1013, digdirt2 - Thank you for ID'ing the beefsteak mix, I should have thought of that (slap head). Digdirt2 - very much appreciate the detail concerning the fused bloom, which I am leaving for now. Fortunately, the bloom set/took (not sure of the right term):
Seysonn, good idea (contacting vendor for details). So far, this and my two Flammes are the only ones producing fruit.
PupillaCharites - GORGEOUS Cherokee Purple fused blossom! Would enjoy seeing a picture of your large double heart Bradley or OR.
worm_girl - Thanks! It's fun not know what I'm growing:)
Oh wow. After researching Bacterial Wilt, I am certain you are right. I will look carefully tomorrow, but expect I'll have to pull it up carefully to keep it away from the others. In all my years of growing tomatoes, I never had that before. Sounds like I should not use that soil anywhere else as well. Probably need to sterilize the pot for future use.
Thank you so much! I just hope none of the others get it.
But if your native soil pH is already leaning toward the alkaline side then adding wood ash can really screw things up.
In other words you need to know your pH to begin with and you should also know if you soil actually needs additional potassium. Most soils don't. Only way to have that info is by getting a pro soil test done from your local county ag extension office.
Excess potassium blocks the uptake of magnesium, manganese, zinc and iron all of which are equally important to the plant..
Dave
John, I think for most established gardens 10-10-10,, 13-13-13-, 16-16-16 .. are just enough. and the cost is reasonable. Then you have to be able to read your plants lips. Do they flower/ set fruits,? Wow does the foliage look like ? how is the growth rate ? Plants mirror the condition of the soil.
Sey
I agree with Dave. One stake per plant is hardly enough. I use like 3 stakes for 2 plants and do some weaving in addition to tying.
One steak per plant is ok when you prune to a single stem. NOT enough. I let at least 2 - 3 stems per plant. That takes more stakes and weaving to support.. With just one stem production will be way too low.
Sey
It has been a while.
My Azoychka plant is doing great. It is one of the strongest . It has few bud clusters and flowers are opening. I guesstimate to have some ripes around mid July or so. My other yellow/gold Kelloggs Breakfast plants are NOT doing as well so far. So I am betting on Azoychka...
C'mone girl ! hehe
Sey
no need for bulb food now, I found the dry Alaska fish fertilizer containing fish bone ,meal and kelp. I used it years ago with good success then I no longer saw it again. found it at home depot so I bought two bags. i'm experimenting on trying just organics this year. just to see if it works out. I've always prepared the soil with manure and humus, but always had success with small side dressings of either 10-10 - 10 or 5-10 -5. if it doesn't work out I go back to my old system. trying to stay away from the blue water also. I can see the denefit of bone meal on my fall planted garlic. I added a lot of bone meal compost and a little milorganite when I prepared the ground last year. nice thick stems meaning large heads this july
I assume you want a source in Australia? If so Australianseed.com
sell Big Boy that is VF and likely a couple of others too. Problem is they don't list the disease resistance in their descriptions so you have to look up the variety on another website (like tomatogrowers.com) to find out its resistance.
I don't know what the shipping costs would be for seeds but you can order all of them from US vendors IF they have the ag permits to ship into AU given the seed import restrictions your country has.
Dave
Thanks, will look into it. Also considering grafting onto some cherry tomatos that grow like weeds here. They've been growing every year for 20+ years and randomly popup all around the house and don't seem to get smashed by wilt at all. I am hoping they will make good root stock?
I appreciate everyone's suggestions. We'll see how it goes. The stakes on the outside of the tank is a good idea. This is all an experiment, so we'll see how the 6 of them do. I grow that variety because they are so easy to freeze (easy to clean/skin) and I use them in soups and stews. I do grow 3 San Marzanos too....but they are in the ground. I also grow Rutgers in the ground. I'll let you all know how it turns out. I have other stock tanks that are mostly for onions/kale/broccoli/lettuces/beans. Last year, I had a couple volunteer tomatoes grow out of one of the stocktanks for beans and kale, and they did great. So we'll see.
I'm out in tri cities. Looks like our forecast shifted again but this time for the good..back down to low 90s at the end of the week. Phew!
Good to hear that. Let those blossoms have chance to get pollinated. Then heat is not going a problem. Also the highs last just for few hours around mid day then maybe 15 hours out of 24 temps should be fine for pollination, IFF the night lows are under 70F ?.
Alright. Let those dark color tomatoes grow. I can't wait to see the ripe ones. I know some of our friends dow south ( from FL to TX, AZ, CA.) already are harvesting. We should have our turn pretty soon. hehe
Sey