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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here you go - all the discussions on how to root cuttings.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Rooting cuttings discussions

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 6:17PM
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esteban_2009(6)

Dave, just what I was looking for.
Thanks again,
Steve

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 7:40PM
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michael723(6)

Well it's a potato leaf variety but that's about all I could do for ya lol... Need more pictures of the entire plant to POSSIBLY point you in the right direction..

Have you asked your grandma?

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 7:16PM
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sheltieche

Caryltoo, yes, it is correct brix number does change with temperature, weather etc. so one looks more on a trend as opposed to one single specific number. Brix widely used in winemaking I am told.
As for Rodale comment, many organic gardener's views and opinions as well as lawmaking policies were formed by readers of Rodale publications. I would put myself into group of biological gardeners, i.e. I would prefer not to be limited by " things of only natural origin" in my applications but using things around garden wisely with respect to living things in the soil and air.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 3:57PM
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michael723(6)

Good luck Linda! I'd love to see your results at the end of the season!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 7:13PM
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michael723(6)

Hi Carolyn,

Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.. Let me start by saying that Elaine Ingham was one of the pioneers of the soil food web so she's always the go to. She didn't write "Teaming with Microbes" but does include it on her web page (soilfoodweb.com) as a resource. To quote a section of the description: "When we use chemical fertilizers, we injure the microbial life that sustains healthy plants, and thus become increasingly dependent on an arsenal of artificial substances, many of them toxic to humans as well as other forms of life. But there is an alternative to this vicious circle: to garden in a way that strengthens, rather than destroys, the soil food web"

Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis wrote "Teaming..." and a follow up "Teaming with Nutrients." Now if they're endorsed by Elaine I'm sure we can count their work as empirical or at the very least reliable.. An excerpt from chapter 20 (TWM) pg 172 discusses osmotic shock - describing how the high levels of salts in synthetic ferts literally burst the cell walls of soil microbes due to the higher salt concentration of the fert and the natural osmotic response.

It's an excellent read and I'm confident that you'd thoroughly enjoy it.. Be well =)

Here is a link that might be useful: Teaming with Microbes

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 3:41PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I do use synthesized fertilizer but also use a lot of different manures, compost and other organic amendments along with it. So That should help to keep the microbes happy . -:)
I cannot see the microbes with the naked eye, but I see a lot of earthworms, (mushrooms in the spring) in my garden. So I am not feeling really guilty.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 7:01PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It can be done. It would be helpful to have borrow extra coupl of hands too.

ONE way is to sacrifice the old bucket. to do this you will need a good sharp knife:

1- Prepare a new container wit 3-4" potting mix at the bottom.
2- cut the bottom of the bucket (~ 1 inch)
3- Now lift the plant in the bucket/with the bucket, (leaving the bottom behind) and place it in the new container.
4- Cut the bucket length wise and remove the piece/s.
5- fill soil around the root bulb up to the previous level or higher if there is room.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 3:03PM
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aphidsquish

That's exactly how I have been transplanting the ones in the big, flimsy plastic pots that I can cut with scissors. I wondered if someone could do that with a bucket, but I think I would end up cutting myself. It looks like there are multiple ways to do this if I really need to in the future. As I said, this is a yellow pear plant I'm not attached to, but for future reference this is all good information.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 5:02PM
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RazzleberryRose

Hi Everyone,

Thank you so much for posting about how to ship tomatoes. You chat came up right away when I googled my question and I have just discovered and joined Garden Web.

So I sent three heirloom tomatoes to San Diego today from Sacramento. The sad news is that today is Sunday and mail pick-up will not happen until tomorrow 3pm. That said, things move pretty quickly around California and I am hoping they will arrive by Tues or Weds.

I will post an update.

I packed in newspaper as suggested in a very sturdy box. Did not use the styrofoam peanuts although I had those but was wondering if they had toxins that might impact my tomatoes or the moisture content of the package? Oh, I did include a lot of fresh oregano from the garden.

Razzleberry

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 3:56PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I think more important than wrapping , (or as important) is using a sturdy box, that will resist collapsing. Also make sure they don't rattle in the box.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 4:20PM
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lkzz(7b)

Thank you seysonn for thinking of us.

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 12:14PM
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djkj(9b)

seysonn - Yes I agree with the Nitrogen being available temporarily.. The problem might arise for some people if there is a high nitrogen source (like manure) which remains most of the time. I think IMHO its a better idea to use water soluble Nitrogen fertilizers and then switch to slow release tomato fertilizers (they have less Nitrogen) for the last 3-4 months of growing.

By the way the slow release tomato fertilizers also work great for containers. Most people experience BER in containers, however I haven't had one by using slow release tomato ferts. They also contain Calcium which may account for it. Also in containers, keeping the plants steadily watered (via drip etc) may also play a role.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 4:15PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

First to make a correction on Tania's page,link below.

Brown Berry was not first offered at Sahin ( correct spelling) seeds in the Netherlands, it was bred by them. The owner at the time was Kees Sahin, whom I knew well, and they also bred Bloody Butcher and a few others that some folks would recognize.

I don't remember seeing any comments about this one not being true to type, but I do know it was stable from the get go, so any problems with offtypes I would think relate to the specific seed source(s).

Did any of the folks mention where they got their seeds for Brown Berry from?

Carolyn

Here is a link that might be useful: Brown Berry

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 2:41PM
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bigpinks

I have two plants of Choc Cherry and they are doing well and producing lots of large round fruit that I think tastes grrrrrreaat! I had Black Cherry 2012 and 2013 but no luck.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 2:46PM
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suncitylinda

Tomato russet mite can be introduced on certain flowers, I think petunias are a common one. They are not visable to the naked eye but will cause green branches to wilt. If you google it you will get good info and pix.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 11:04AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Lower branches wilting can often be due to insufficient amount of moisture in the soil. Companion planting should not pose a problem as long as you provide enough food and drink.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 2:36PM
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daniel_nyc(7a)

Do you grow the same tomatoes varieties as last year, and in similar conditions: watering, fertilizing, pruning�

What emitters do you use (gl/hr.), how often do you water and how much each time ?

The weather this year is similar to last year ?

    Bookmark     July 27, 2014 at 6:46AM
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sheltieche

Oh, seysonn and michael, thanks so much for asking questions and answering. Until very recently my knowledge about this topic was minimal. Hopefully will make some other people rethink their gardening practices.

    Bookmark     July 18, 2014 at 8:55AM
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sheltieche

Not to jinx myself but significant improvement noted in fungal bacterial spread at my community veggie gardens. 2 applications of aerated compost were foilar and one soil drench with mycorrhiza. 2 days later after last Compost application after the rain applied actinovate foliar.
So far so good, has been for about a week. Noted more blooms, top growth all clean and deep green.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 11:03PM
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sheilajoyce_gw

I changed things up this year, and for the first time have no BER. I planted only Better Boys, and since they were slow growing at first, I planted rather late in a spot that years ago had been a compost heap for yard clippings and leaves. It was very dry soil, so I watered every other day at first. When the plants were a good foot or two tall, I whirled crushed egg shells from one or two dozen eggs in water and poured it on my 4 plants. I have always had BER on the early crop, but not this year. Since we live in the coastal southern California dry climate, I control the water. Just harvesting the Better Boys, and I am not impressed with the texture and flavor of the first few.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 5:09PM
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Aaron_Wisconsin_(5)

Here is my two cents:

I don't quite believe the idea of adding eggshell to supplement calcium.
1) It needs the soil to be acidic to dissolve calcium carbonate in eggshell into soluble forms for plants to absorb. So if the soil is very close to 7 or above, they will remain solid and plants won't use it.
2) Soil should have a lot calcium. Calcium is an abundant element.
3) Natural water has a LOT calcium. Even in tape water, there are about 50 microgram of calcium per liter. Natural water has MUCH more.
4) If I wanted to add eggshell to soil, I probably will soak it with venegar first to dissolve some eggshells. I tend to think it takes forever for nature to dissolve eggshells.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 7:53PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Jimmy, I think you may find it very useful to read the link below,a recent thread that makes a lot of good points about BER, I posted on July 4th, and you'll also recognize some names of folks here who do post quite often.

Carolyn

Here is a link that might be useful: BER

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 10:19PM
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sheilajoyce_gw

For the first time, I have had no Blossom End Rot this year. I planted the tomatoes late in an area that had been a compost heap years ago. The soil was very dry and I had to water frequently, every other day. After a couple of weeks, I ground up the egg shells from about one or two dozen eggs and whirled them in the blender with water that I then poured over the 4 plants. I have added crushed egg shells a few times since then, but not blenderized ones. Something did it.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 4:53PM
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sheltieche

which variteties do you grow, what kind of soil management do you have and what is watering system?

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 4:31PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

In your zone it is probably your choice. Folks up further north would probably stick with short DTM determinates for Fall gardens so they can get a crop before the first freeze.

So variety is a bit more important than type. When do you get first frost average? Pick a variety with a DTM that falls in before that date. Follow me?

If you are buying a transplant your choices will be very limited this time of year anyway which is why most of us who do Fall gardens use our own traqnsplants grown from seed a few weeks ago or use rooted cuttings.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 12:25PM
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ritamac

Thanks, Dave.The Home Depot had about 5 varieties of plants. I decided on a Heatwave, a Solar Fire, and one called Fourth of July, which has a 50 day maturity. Our first frost is average November 15, so I should be ok with these, depending on how things go this year. Wish me luck (and wish me luck with salvaging my existing plants!).

Rita

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 4:00PM
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