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Online nursery review guide w/ photos (finishing up)

This week I'll post reviews on the last four online nursery sources I have made purchases with this Spring.

If you're unfamiliar with my reviews or how I am grading each merchant, please feel free to check out the link at the end of this post(highlighted in blue).

To this point I have completed reviews for:

Greer Gardens

Bloom River Gardens

Coenosium Gardens

Ebay Merchant: Bonzai Bob

Porterhowse Farms

Forestfarm

Ebay Merchant: Plantspluspines

Wayside Gardens/Perfectplant

Stanley and Sons

Coming this week are reviews for:

Whistling Gardens(Canada)

Cloud Mountain Farms

Singing Tree Nursery (conifers and heaths)

Girard Nursery(later this week - maybe early next week)

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WHISTLING GARDENS Ltd.

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Whistling gardens is a 56-acre piece of land in Ontario, Canada covered with rare conifers and other trees and plants. Darren Heimbecker is the owner and their nursery stock covers an extensive range of trees and over 1,000 different conifers.

www.whistlinggardens.ca

Inventory: ****

Whistling gardens has an impressive catalog. Plants range from the rare to the unheard of with a large variety of sizes amongst them offered as well. Darren told me that the largest plants he can realistically ship are 5 gallon sized, but for the price, there is certainly some rationale to collectors living close enough to making a visit with a wad of cash and a moving van. Some of the larger stock are 10, 15, and 20 gallon plants, probably 10+ years old or more. Also, for the harcore collector, Whistling gardens offers 'liners' which are smaller plants, usually 1 or 2 year grafts of some very hard to find varieties for sale as well. If you've 'Gotta have' a particular plant, this may be a good route for you.

Stock Quality/Size: ***

Stock size is listed pretty descriptively in the catalog, listing 'age' for most plants offered. I was pleased with the size and quality of the plants I received. The 5 gallon tree I ordered(listed below) was a very nice sized plant for less then $50 U.S.

Customer Service/General experience: ****

Darren was both patient and helpful during the order process. The plants had to undergo a 'customs' check which required a before-shipping check for pests, I presume. This cost about $10 U.S. but in an order of a few hundred, the price is insignifigant. Shipping overall was actually pretty quick, about a week from Canada to the West coast U.S. The plants were sent 'partially bare-root' which I found to be fine considering it is still winter/early spring and the plants are dormant. It helped save on shipping which was also quite reasonable.

Value: ****

Whistling gardens has very affordable prices - and even better - there is an immediate 20-25% knockdown of the price from U.S. to Canadian currency. The liners came down to about $10-12 each and most gallons were very inexpensive as well.

Overall, Whistling gardens is a great find. A source that has both extremely rare conifers rarely seen elsewhere and at a very affordable price. At a minimum, check out their catalogs, you'll probably find yourself placing an order soon after!

Picea omorika x pungens 'Kosteri' 5-Gal ~$50 U.S.

A nice enough plant that I gave it the honor of my center circle.

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Picea abies Ohlendorfii Broom 3-Gal ~$28 U.S.

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An example of a few of the 1-gallon and 'liner' sized plants.

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CLOUD MOUNTAIN FARM

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Cloud Mountain Farms is a family owned nursery out of the NW part of Washington state. With 20 acres of nursery lands, they started with apple trees thirty years ago and have now extended into other areas, including conifers.

www.cloudmountainfarm.com

Inventory: ***

Cloudmountain has a pretty nice selection of conifers, with heavy inventories of dwarf and miniature conifers. The quirk is that more then half of their conifers are strangely not offered online. You might expect larger, full-sized uprights to be excluded from online purchases, but there are also miniatures also listed as 'in-person' only. Even more curious is since my purchase a few months ago, one of the plants I purchased online is no longer listed as available for online orders - it's now listed as 'nursery only'.

Stock size/quality: ****

I found the stock size to be very impressive, on par with some of the best I've seen amongst online nurseries. The Cedrus atlantica 'Uwe' that I ordered was a nice full plant, at least four or five years old. I also found the plants to be very healthy and well grown. A definite plus.

Customer service/General experience: ****

I only made one order with Cloudmountain farm, but their packaging, shipping and business acumen was great.

Value: ***

While some plants were very large, for a very reasonable price, I paid a small randsom for the Cedrus atlantica 'Uwe' that I coveted. For it's size, I wasn't disappointed, but in this economy, or any other for that matter, most people may balk at spending upwards of $90 on a 1-gallon plant.

Cloud Mountain Farm is another good option for collectors or garden enthusiasts looking to pepper their landscape with some cool plants.

Abies procera 'Hupp Compact' $35

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Cedrus atlantica 'Uwe' $88

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Cedrus deodara 'Feelin Blue' $20

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Tsuga mertensiana 'Bump's Blue' $20

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I'll give a small review for Singing Tree garden later this week(I only ordered one conifer and a half dozen heaths), and Girard Nursery as soon as the order arrives.

Below are also links to the previous review threads.

Hope this was helpful to you! Also feel free to add input here or your own reviews. I'm sure people would love to hear what you've found out there.

Will

Here is a link that might be useful: Original review thread

Comments (16)

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Click the link below if you wanted to see reviews for

    Coenosium Gardens
    Ebay Merchant: Plantspluspines
    Ebay Merchant: Bonzai Bob
    Stanley and Sons
    Wayside Garden

    Here is a link that might be useful: Second review

  • dcsteg
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    When you interject the word Broom into a cultivar name such as Picea abies 'Ohlendorfii Broom' is this an acceptable practice?

    Dave

  • kleckas
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Also - wrong spelling, should be "Ohlendorffii".

    Kleckas

  • marchela
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Can you please give us the names of the 1 gal. and liners from Whistling Gardens..
    Thank you.

  • gardener365
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will, nice reviews. These are the first I've read.

    Dave,

    I'm getting to the point where the rules I don't even care about anymore. I forget about the word broom but I believe that is an acceptible "non-latinized" term. It's words like 'Pendula or Aurea or Glauca' that aren't supposed to be used.

    Maybe "broom" is one of them. But, then again, I know at least one European who has used the word broom in a recent find which is where I draw my information.

    Later,

    Dax

  • dcsteg
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will...nice post...I know it took some time to put this together...much appreciated.

    Dax...It's really not a big concern with me and I am sure there will be two sides..one acceptable and the other not acceptable.

    I am growing Pinus banksiana 'Broom'. I talked to Iseli as they seem to have a lock on this conifer. There are no plans to change the cultivar name 'Broom'. The late Ed Rezek gave Iseli the scion wood and the cultivar name 'Broom' for grafting. Not something Iseli wants to change.

    Dave Pinus banksiana 'Broom'
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  • bluespruce53
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The word broom can be used as a legitimate part of a cultivar name, so say the Conifer Registration Authority, and I guess they should know. The plant in question here Picea abies 'Ohlendorffii' is an accepted registered name, so using the word broom within the name is incorrect.
    Unless this is a witches' broom that occurred on 'Ohlendorffii' then that would be a different matter, certainly doesn't look like one though.

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Ya, the plant is officially listed in most places as

    Picea abies 'Ohlendorffii'. I made three errors in listing it, first adding the 'Broom', second spelling the cultivars name wrong and third excluding the 'quotations'.

    I am a bit of a stickler for following those rules as well so this is an uncommon error for me. I appreciate the corrections I receive on these forums.

    Marchela, I'm not sure if you're asking for the names of the plant in the picture or a list of the 1-gallons and liners Whistling garden offers. The later can be found on the website in PDF form. The plants pictured include

    Abies alba 'Pyrdamidalis' back left
    Abies balmsamae 'Weeping Larry' back right
    Pseudotsuga menziessi 'Marshall' front left
    Psuedotsuga menziessi 'Wycoffs' Big Blue' front right

    Will

  • marchela
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will,
    Yes, I was asking the name of the plants pictured..
    Thank you!

  • gardener365
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will:
    menziesii
    balsamea
    Pyramidalis
    Pseudotsuga/Pseudotsuga

    Try a little harder, you have way too many plants Not to learn correctly!

    thanks,

    Dax

  • tsugajunkie z5 SE WI ♱
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ...and Will, about your grammar...

    Just kidding.

    Thanks again for the reviews and the pix.

    tj

  • amidheliot
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will-

    The reviews are great. I really appreciate them. Are you familiar with Evergreen Nursery? I have placed several orders from them in the last year and have been wonderfully pleased. They don't have the largest selection, but they do have some uncommon species, and what they offer is top notch size, quality, and price. They have terrific service as well. Darren does all that he can to help, and does it in a very timely manner. You might want to check them out.

    Eliot

    P.S. I have no interest in Evergreen Nursery, I'm just one very satisfied customer. Same goes for Girard Nursery. I only live a couple of hours from them and hope to make it up to visit this year. I started buying from them about the same time as Evergreen. Can't wait to see your review for Girard's as well.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Evergreen Nursery

  • jaro_in_montreal
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "Hope this was helpful to you! Also feel free to add input here or your own reviews. I'm sure people would love to hear what you've found out there.color>"

    Yes, very helpful -- although, as a Canadian, I don't have access to some of the retailers reviewed.

    As for adding input, I guess that I must reiterate how glad I was to find Whistling gardens: similar selection to some of the popular US rare conifer nurseries, but without the hassle (and extra cost!) of x-border shipping.

    I have already posted a few photos of my acquisitions from Whistling gardens last year.

    This year, I have ten more plants on order, in various sizes.

    Amazing how one keeps finding room for new plants, in a limited space !

  • barbaraincalif
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Recent aquisition from Darren at Whistling gardens:

    Picea orientalis 'Bergman's Gem'
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    Received a few other conifers from Darren that are also very nice, plus putting together a second order from him of mostly sale liners.

    Barbara

  • firefightergardener
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Nice camellia Barbara!

    And I didn't know he sold conifers on standards, that's good to know.

    Will

  • barbaraincalif
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Will, you can search Darren's pdf list for standards by typing STD into Adobe's "find" feature. He has many, but some are too large for affordable shipping. I've been lusting after a Ginkgo 'Mariken' standard, that with brittle stems is too big to ship...

    Barbara

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