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I am not interested in the Desert King; I have that.

What I am interested is in the weird Gillette (Croisic).
Specially after seeing your reference to page 15 of its
history by Condit. I happen to be familiar with that page.

"P.I. No. 6,952, obtained from Malta as Tin Baitri or Saint John"

My unkown #8 (from Malta) is also possibly a croisic.
So far it produced some weird figs for me. First bad
looking figs on the outside and delicious inside; then
good looking figs on the outside, bad looking inside
and yet still sweet!

I'll only like to compare.

Mark,

You've also had email from me since 9AM 12/11. I hope you got it. Thanks.

Henry

I would also like to add that my #8 M.Croisic fruit shape
does not look anywhere near the Gillette; it is much more
roundish rather than longish as the G is.

Hi George-

My friend's main issue with seeing photos of this tree was that it was a Latarulla. In seeing it in person, he was confidant that it was a Gillette. The one I found looks very similar to his:

http://www.geocities.com/kiwibobg/kiwifruitsalad3

Notice the shape of the fruit and the shape of the leaves. The northwest's Gillette has very rounded, corrugated edged leaves. The sinuses are very narrow, if not overlapping. If a quarter is almost an inch, my fruit is almost 2.5 inches wide. Condit lists Croisic as 1.75 inches. When I compare my photos to the Latarulla at:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg0711091931015.html
http://www.cloudforest.com/northwest/forum/2883.html

the leaves and figs don't look the same.

One other thing, the Gillette produces seeds. Is it common for figs to develop seeds through apomixis or are the seeds not fertile? No wasp here.

Any ideas opinions are welcome.

Thanks-
Mark
Seattle, WA

Mark,
My previous post was not meant to question your Gillette.
I was actually questioning my unknown Croisic.
BTW, there is also another Croisic fig circulating around
with the name of Pingo de Mel...

George-
I understood and I'm sorry if my message came off as defensive. That was not my intent.
I was just detailing our identification decision and providing information on its characteristics. My concern is passing around a mis-identified fig (I know, it's never been done!) that was identified by one person that is familiar with both cultivars, and one amateur. I don't want to create a Sal's situation!
I was also hoping to find people that have Latarulla, Gillette or whatever, and can say, "hey that looks like mine" or vice-versa.
Mark

What appear to be seeds in common figs are called cenocarps, and they are not fertile.
Croisic is a caprifig and as such has male and female flowers, but from what I understand should not be able to self-pollinate.
I've never tried sowing fig seed, but I've heard they germinate rapidly. Maybe try sowing some of Croisic's "seeds" and see what happens. With figs, you never rule anything out, LOL.

I have a bunch of root base cuttings from an unknown type of light brown/tan fig. The tree is just a few blocks north of here, and is not like any of mine-- Desert King, Violet DE Bordeaux, Brunswick or Magnolia. I noted also that the figs that did mature last fall, had a sort of striped two tone shade on the sides between light and dark tan.
I wish I had a digital camera.
I think it is a fairly uncommon variety for the NW, and I've only seen one other like it at South Seattle Community College. Size wise the tree is medium, smaller than Desert King.
Would be happy to trade for the Gillette.

I figured out at last how to use the photo bucket and though I have no handy fig photos, "yet", I did take this picture of my Richard Walden Seedless to share.

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I do have some wood of Violet DE Bordeaux, " I brought some into the porch, just in case this 'Canadian blast' gets the best outdoors. It is a small tree and the fruit ripens very early. I think it is one of the most 'Cool Hardy' fruits in the fig population.
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Hey,
If any of you Seattle people want to meet up and talk figs I'll bet there from late May into June. I'd love to connect with fellow Fig-heads while I'm there. Please email me offline or find me at Folklife on memorial day weekend, I'll have a booth.

Peace,
Little John

Yes that would be good what is Folklife?
I am closer to Tacoma WA.
If it doesn't get any warmer, I think I'll tear out the fig trees and plant Sitka Spruce trees.

boizeau,

Folklife is a huge festival with vendors and free music. Here's a link.....

http://www.nwfolklife.org/

I'll be in the founders court area making brooms at my booth. If you bring some potted figs they're as good as currency at my booth. Hope to see you there!!

Peace,
Little John